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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: JedM on September 28, 2019, 06:53:14 pm

Title: Infertile ewes
Post by: JedM on September 28, 2019, 06:53:14 pm
Hi,
I bought 2 beltex shearling ewes at the market in September 2018.  They were in excellent condition and I put them in with the ram straight away.  They have been with the ram (which is proven fertile) ever since, so that's 13 months now.  They have never lambed or shown signs of abortion, so I was just wondering if there are ways to tell if a ewe isn't fertile.  They were in the breeding section at the market, but maybe the farmer knew they couldn't lamb which is why he was selling them?
Title: Re: Infertile ewes
Post by: crobertson on September 28, 2019, 08:37:17 pm
I'm not sure how a farmer would know they wouldn't lamb, especially as they were only shearlings. I also had one that didn't get tupped or lambed last time but I will try her again this time .... and maybe the year after because I'm soft.

I did read somewhere that keeping them with a ram full time can get the used to the sight / smell of him so it is sometimes better to keep them separate in the run up to tupping.
Title: Re: Infertile ewes
Post by: sheeponthebrain on September 29, 2019, 09:03:22 am
theres a possibility that they're too fat.  over fat ewes sometimes dont cycle. might need to go on a diet?
Title: Re: Infertile ewes
Post by: JedM on September 30, 2019, 12:54:28 pm
Yes I would say they are overweight now, although last year they weren't.  I'll put them on a diet and see if they lambs in the spring.  Thanks
Title: Re: Infertile ewes
Post by: twizzel on September 30, 2019, 02:56:12 pm
Yes I would say they are overweight now, although last year they weren't.  I'll put them on a diet and see if they lambs in the spring.  Thanks


If you put some raddle paste on your ram you’ll see if they are being served. Likewise it might be worth fertility testing your ram if he’s doing the deed but they keep returning.
Title: Re: Infertile ewes
Post by: shep53 on October 01, 2019, 12:14:18 pm
I would fertility test the ram ,just because he has produced lambs in the past does not mean that he is still fertile . You are 100% certain they are female , I know it sounds stupid but it does happen that they are weathers or have both genitals .  If some breeds do not get pregnant as ewe lambs they are sold and  some may never get pregnant .  As suggested  put raddle on the ram and then you will at least know if the ewes are cycling
Title: Re: Infertile ewes
Post by: JedM on October 01, 2019, 01:50:39 pm
I'm pretty certain he is fertile as my other 12 ewes all got pregnant!  I will be putting a raddle on him next weekend when he goes in with ewes so I'll see then if these 2 are cycling.  yes, they are definitely female.  thanks.
Title: Re: Infertile ewes
Post by: PipKelpy on October 01, 2019, 02:45:23 pm
What are their teats like? I've lambed hoggs twinned to a tup, Sweet Petite was actually a triplet with a triplet ewe sister and tup brother. She lambed also. However, Henrys' Mum lambed triplets every other year (twins in the other years) and 1 year, she had 2 tups and 1 ewe. Bright Eyes was lovely! Beautiful temperament! However, for 3 years straight i ran her with the 3 tups we had around the place, Dorset Down, Bleu Du Maine and Lleyn! Sniff, snort, play! NOT one made any effort to pounce. This was back in the day when I could part with 'Has beens'. She went for meat!
Title: Re: Infertile ewes
Post by: bj_cardiff on October 01, 2019, 07:04:26 pm
I would raddle now and see what happens, failing that try a different ram or sell/cull them.. Could just be that the ram doesn't like them, or they don't like him, or as you suspect, they are just not cycling?
Title: Re: Infertile ewes
Post by: harmony on October 02, 2019, 08:37:45 am
I would raddle now and see what happens, failing that try a different ram or sell/cull them.. Could just be that the ram doesn't like them, or they don't like him, or as you suspect, they are just not cycling?



Agree with the above or can you try a different tup? You know yours works but as above maybe he doesn't like them. Are they all beltex?
Title: Re: Infertile ewes
Post by: crobertson on December 31, 2019, 06:41:24 pm
If its any morale support, my shearling who was never tupped or lambed last time scanned with twins yesterday - glad I kept her and tried again!