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Title: The petition to ban open fridges and freezers in all retail outlets
Post by: Rupert the bear on July 28, 2019, 05:28:44 pm

I saw this today, thinking about it I wouldn't leave my fridge or freezer wide open all day.
I know the freezers are generally enclosed but the chillers...
I've signed it ,  every little helps


https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/261092?fbclid=IwAR0rl2IeTUuflgznLyKHU7Jl4hi1xtEraAZ-ijqo4eG9LTM_bqe1yXCOS58

Title: Re: The petition to ban open fridges and freezers in all retail outlets
Post by: Scotsdumpy on July 30, 2019, 10:19:29 am

If I see any open chillers or freezers I close them!

Title: Re: The petition to ban open fridges and freezers in all retail outlets
Post by: SallyintNorth on July 30, 2019, 10:26:55 am

Quote from: Scotsdumpy on July 30, 2019, 10:19:29 am

If I see any open chillers or freezers I close them!

Lots of chillers in supermarkets have no doors

Title: Re: The petition to ban open fridges and freezers in all retail outlets
Post by: Rupert the bear on July 30, 2019, 10:49:01 am

I think it must be a British thing,on the continent most open front chillers have clear plastic strips, something I've not often seen here

Title: Re: The petition to ban open fridges and freezers in all retail outlets
Post by: Penninehillbilly on July 30, 2019, 11:47:31 am

Plastic strips sound a good idea.
Not sure doors on chillers, I'm thinking during the day they would be open every few seconds so more aggravation and letting cold air out anyway, but evenings and overnight would be good.

Title: Re: The petition to ban open fridges and freezers in all retail outlets
Post by: Scotsdumpy on July 30, 2019, 04:30:08 pm

Quote from: SallyintNorth on July 30, 2019, 10:26:55 am

Quote from: Scotsdumpy on July 30, 2019, 10:19:29 am

If I see any open chillers or freezers I close them!

Lots of chillers in supermarkets have no doors

Aldi,
Lidl,
coop

all have some form of chiller with doors - Scotland - I still close them if I find them open..

Title: Re: The petition to ban open fridges and freezers in all retail outlets
Post by: Fleecewife on July 30, 2019, 10:02:07 pm

For chest shape chillers/freezers, open at the top, the cold will tend to stay in, as cold air sinks, hot air rises.  If they have a closed lid then every time they are opened, cold is sucked out and will be whooshed into the air.  Without a lid, there will be less perturbation of the air when goods are removed. The problem is the upright ones, where the cold can fall out of the bottom if there is no door. However, every time the door is opened the same thing will happen, plus the air being whooshed out by the sucking motion of the door.  I don't think I've seen vertical chillers/freezers with out doors - maybe I'm just unobservant.
To my mind, the best option would be a chest type cabinet, with a sliding top - no air is sucked out, and the lid can be closed gently.