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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: Russpig on March 17, 2019, 07:20:08 pm

Title: Am I entitled?
Post by: Russpig on March 17, 2019, 07:20:08 pm
We rent our house with 4 acres of land from an estate.
Neighbour farmer told us we were entitled to a payment or something along them lines for farming the ground as we lamb 13 breeding ewes.
Is there any truth in this?
Many thanks folks
Title: Re: Am I entitled?
Post by: hampshiresmallholder on March 17, 2019, 07:52:18 pm
I presume he/she meant from the rural payments agency. Not sure about the rules for payments and 'farming the ground' though

Are you farming the ground or farming the sheep?? Or both  ???
Title: Re: Am I entitled?
Post by: twizzel on March 17, 2019, 08:07:16 pm
As you’re renting it you need to check with the landlord to see if they are claiming the subsidy or whether you would be eligible.
Title: Re: Am I entitled?
Post by: Russpig on March 17, 2019, 08:15:48 pm
We have just started farming the 13 sheep for the last year or so. Until then nothing has been on the ground since we moved there over 15 years ago.
Who would I be best to speak to about any payment that I could be entitled to?
Title: Re: Am I entitled?
Post by: hampshiresmallholder on March 17, 2019, 08:28:51 pm
As twizzel says, i would speak to the landlord first and ask him about it, if not contact Rural Payments Agency, I presume you are registered with them, and ask them.

Good luck russ
Title: Re: Am I entitled?
Post by: SallyintNorth on March 17, 2019, 08:47:40 pm
I think you will probably be under the lower limit with 4 acres.  I think it’s a number of hectares, and 4 acres is less than 2 hectares.  But I’m talking England and Wales, and I may be slightly out of date, so do check.

You will also have to hold the entitlements, which are bought and sold as commodities.  You must be able to control the land, be actively farming it, hold entitlements for it, and claim it.
Title: Re: Am I entitled?
Post by: macgro7 on March 18, 2019, 06:50:29 am
If you are in England or Wales you need to have at least 5 hectares (12.5 acres more or less) to claim subsidies.
Title: Re: Am I entitled?
Post by: Maysie on March 18, 2019, 03:41:24 pm
Yep, as already said, min 5 hectares and any areas of woodland does not count as part of that.

You will also need the RPA Entitlements too for the same land, which based on your original question I assume you probably don't have.   
Title: Re: Am I entitled?
Post by: Rosemary on March 18, 2019, 04:56:13 pm
Never mind, after Brexit, CAP will be gone and Mr Gove will be looking after us farmers (although hopefully not in Scotland).