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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: the shepherd on October 06, 2010, 09:15:54 pm

Title: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: the shepherd on October 06, 2010, 09:15:54 pm
Hello,

new to the forum.

starting a small holding near hay on wye. herefordshire. border of wales & england. england side

Anyone have black welsh mountain sheep - registered - yearlings and 2 year old ewes for sale. Want asap in lamb.

also looking for 2 ouessant sheep. yearlings or 2 year olds. registered. in lamb. prefer non black. asap

and dexters pref the colour red. registered 2 year olds heifers. wanted for spring in calf

and guinea fowl fertilized eggs

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Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: andywalt on October 07, 2010, 04:06:03 pm
Welcome shepard

I am new to sheep this year and this forum has been priceless for me and really helpful, and spoken to some great people.

Post your requirements in the market place section as well so it will be seen by more people,

good luck, let us know whats accuring and post some photos so we can all have a look


regards


andy
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: woollyval on October 07, 2010, 08:11:16 pm
I keep Ouessants, however mine are not reg as they are French! My ram is eligible to be registered as he is the GEMO 2008 white champion and from the same flock that swept the board at the 2010 show. Reg British Ouessants are descended mainly from Dutch imports and do contain quite a few faults, hence I bought good solid French ones. There are a couple of breeders in your area who keep reg ouessants but mostly black. If you need any help please let me know.
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: Mickyork on October 07, 2010, 08:58:04 pm
Hello and welcome from North Yorkshire   8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: jinglejoys on October 07, 2010, 09:41:49 pm
  A friend of mine used to keep Quessants,soay and she imported Babydolls
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: kanisha on October 07, 2010, 09:47:02 pm
sadly uk reg ouessants doesn't mean anything unless they have been under a judge and confirmed as per the french system. The Uk breed society has yet to understand that only those that actually conform to the standard get registered over here not those whose parents were registered. One day they might learn  :-\
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: Sharondp on October 07, 2010, 10:15:44 pm
Hello from nearly 3 acres in Ross-on-Wye with Badger face mountain sheep, lots of chickens and bees. Hubby works 3 days a week in Hay-on-Wye - lovely spot!

Can't help with your wish list I'm afraid but I'll ask around  :)
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: Rosemary on October 08, 2010, 04:21:56 pm
Hi and welcome from Carnoustie  :wave:
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: HappyHippy on October 08, 2010, 06:28:42 pm
Hello from me too  :wave:
It might be worth asking at your local auction market if they know of breeders in the area and you should be able to pick up fertile eggs at an auction quite easily. I love guinea fowl, stunning (if a little noisy) birds  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: jinglejoys on October 08, 2010, 06:56:44 pm
Ruth got her Quessants from Hammerton Zoo in Cambridge
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: Castle Farm on October 09, 2010, 09:23:47 am
I'm near Hay-on Wye the Welsh Side just up from Clyro.

You starting a rare breed center or what  ;)
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: Sharondp on October 09, 2010, 06:46:09 pm
Plenty of guinea fowl at the rare breed sale today!
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: the shepherd on October 10, 2010, 10:01:05 pm
Dear All

thank you for all the welcomes and info.
We are loving the farm so far but need sheep asap on the land. I am finding that farmers are trying to sell they c*** to us!! as we are newbies!! As if we are stupid!!! We ofcourse at least we can read up on the breed standards!! and know what to look for. I hate to be taken for a ride so bit worried now how I will get my sheep without the wool being pulled over my eyes. excuse the pun!!

Kanisha can you give me access to ouessants.ning.com - I have filled in my info but cannot get in.
Does anyone know what the deal is with getting ouessants from France?? Is Gemo the French equivalent for breed society  :'( sorry for ignorance!!

Woolyshepherd any contacts in my area will be great. I am finding Uk has mainly black ouessants. Since I am getting black welsh mountain sheep I wanted something different thats all.

In reply to are we starting a rare breeds farm. no just want hard breeds that have good meat. ouessants are for pets. But sheep and cattle for meat. converting farm to organic.

re chickens. one of my chickens feathers are coming off and she is pecking herself. puff orpingtons. Is she moulting as it is autumn but my other chickens are not???



Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: kanisha on October 11, 2010, 06:40:22 am
Ning forum is offline at the moment.

Yes GEMO is the french breed society

no problem geting ouessants from France I aranged wooleys  champion ram for her, including getting him made up first.
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: Sharondp on October 11, 2010, 10:35:22 am
Your Buff-O could be moulting, but you might want to check for lice too and give her and the rest of the flock a good dusting  :)
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: Sylvia on October 11, 2010, 10:49:41 am
Welcome, I dare say you will find as much help and support on here as I do.
I have Ouissant sheep, found on this site and I have Guinea fowl, noisy indeed but lovely. I would say it's a bit late in the year to be hatching but if you are still looking next spring you will be welcome to a clutch of eggs in return for postage.
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: Sylvia on October 11, 2010, 10:52:29 am
  A friend of mine used to keep Quessants,soay and she imported Babydolls

What are Babydolls? They are new to me, but then, so were Ouissants until a few months ago!
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: jinglejoys on October 11, 2010, 03:14:50 pm
  A friend of mine used to keep Quessants,soay and she imported Babydolls

What are Babydolls? They are new to me, but then, so were Ouissants until a few months ago!

  Miniture Southdown Sheep http://www.nabssar.org/    :)
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: dannyonthefarm on October 17, 2010, 01:07:59 pm
Hi Shepard

Not sure how far you are willing to travel but there are a couple of registered Dexter's for sale close to me in Staffordshire seller wants 300 each don't no if this is a good prise here is a link.
http://www.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-adverts.showadvert/index-1033092674/dc1f3d32.html
http://www.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-adverts.showadvert/index-1033076022/9fae3116.html
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: the shepherd on November 01, 2010, 07:35:32 pm
Hi Guys

Thanks for your help. We are now the proud owners of 7 little ouessant sheep.
And they really are so adorable. Worried if we leave them outside the fox will have them?? Anyone had a problem with this. We have a field shelter for them. But right now we are bringing them in and putting them in the stable overnight. We  bought 4 Indian runner ducks but the fox had one the first night they came home, even though the previous owner had ducks and they were all fine while they loved here. Poor little duck. thank god he did not get the drake. We now bring them into the stable every night.
Thanks for the info on the dexters. Decided to wait till spring to get the cows to save the mucking out this year and damaging the grass!! Found out hereford market is super for birds of all types and really cheap. someone bought silkies for 50p each!!!!! They also had guinea fowl.

Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: kanisha on November 01, 2010, 08:07:22 pm
Hi never had a problem with foxes but I do worry about stray dogs. didn't the previous owners fill you in? I keep an oversized ouessant wether in with my ewes mainly to dissuade a dog from coming by more so when the ewes have their lambs. more of a worry when they are this size this lamb is a couple of days old and not prem :love:.

(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd278/SperedBreizh/DSC06923-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: faith0504 on November 01, 2010, 08:10:07 pm
OH THAT IS SO SWEET  :love:
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: woollyval on November 02, 2010, 07:40:31 pm
Never be fooled into thinking a fox would take or attack a Ouessant just because its small and sweet! I have 20 of them and they are the hardiest sheep I have come across! They will face up to my dogs, chase any phesants that come too close and are as tough as old boots!

Lambs of any breed are often at risk from foxes but personally I think that the larger breeds whose lambs tend to be a bit dim and slow at birth are at more risk than a Ouessant lamb which stands almost immediately after birth and is almost impossible to catch at 30mins old ::) :o
You have to realise they are not the little sweet minature sheep they look but primitive tough proud sheep that are born survivors and think they are a lot bigger than they are ;D

Mine are friendly and I really like them as a breed of sheep as they are very low maintenance... I have never ever had a lame one! Do beware of making rams over friendly though as I have now evidence of at least 3 really nasty Ouessant rams all of which have been made pets of because the owners thought they were sweet.

Dogs are always a problem with any sheep
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: Anke on November 03, 2010, 10:35:15 am
I have had no problems with foxes or badgers with my shetlands and larger sheep, even though I leave the lambs out from about two days old, and they also lamb outside. I have badger and fox tracks right across the field, and they use the area as a loo too... I think though they may take any weak (or already dead) animals as they are opportunits.

More worried about dogs, but so far been ok too.
Title: Re: Welsh black mountain sheep, dexter cattle, ouessant sheep and guinea fowl
Post by: jinglejoys on November 03, 2010, 02:38:08 pm
I had 4 Black Welsh mountain lambs taken by foxes in one year (one of them in broad daylight on the lawn in front of the house...I saw it and managed to get it back when it couldn't get it through the fence quick enough)I've also had goat kids taken.