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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: Womble on June 19, 2018, 08:52:58 am
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Our lambs were tagged over a month ago, but I've just cut out a second infected ear tag this morning.
The same happened to a couple last year too, so I'm wondering what i'm doing wrong?
We're using Shearwell SET tags, and dip each one in disinfectant before applying it. Is there anything else we should be doing, such as spraying the ear itself?
Thanks!
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I've never seen that, but the majority of my lambs go for meat and they are tagged the morning they go. Sometimes after tagging breeding sheep I see a tag that has been caught in something and pulled through the ear making a bit of a mess. I tend to cut the loop of the tag these days which seems to of sorted out the problem. Could you post a pic of the infection?
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Disinfectants need a fairly long contact time to be really effective. It varies depending on which one you are using but a 30 minute soak is much much more effective than just dipping in. I put the ear tags in a container with diluted hibiscrub for about 30 mins then take them out as I use them. So far :fc: no issues
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I use SET tags on both the sheep and the goats - loads of issues with the goats and almost none in the sheep. But I don't tag lambs until the autumn (double tags as mine are not off before they are 18 months or so at the earliest), well past the time I worry about fly-strike. Any mild infection will just heal by itself.
Goat kids - tagged much earlier (single tag and pastern band) and loads of problems - but they are housed of course, so hayracks etc all cause problems.
I don't dip the tag into anything, but blue-spray the ears (for the kids only, lambs just get done
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Never disinfected anything
or had any issues with infected ears. (except when they tear them out) .... are you sure you are missing veins? Are flies an issue?
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I have had some sore/crusty ears but none that were infected and needing the tag cutting out. I do not disinfect the tags but each pair comes in its own bag so not exposed to the environment until opened to use. Caisley tags.
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are you sure you are missing veins? Are flies an issue?
That's a very good point. I do my best to miss veins of course, but with black ears and wriggly sheep, it's not that easy to be sure! That on its own could account for the one or two who have problems I guess? (flies aren't too much of a problem here).
Re the disinfection, I reckon that a sheep's ear must have far more bugs on it than any new tag would, hence why I asked about disinfecting ears as well as tags.
The infections so far have been worse than just crustiness, with significant swelling at the base of the ear, pronounced droopiness, and pus. They tend to clear up really quickly once the offending tag is removed though, although I did give last one's a shot of betamox 48 hrs later, since things didn't seem to be getting better, which sorted him out very quickly (bang goes this year's 'antibiotic free' claim for the meat!)
BJ - I did try to get you a photo this morning, but the lamb was having none of it!!
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If it were me I would tag them when they are much younger - because they are growing so fast at that point you get less open wound because it grows over. Also they wriggle less :).
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I was going to say do them younger too. I did mine this year when I castrated and docked lambs before turnout and think all ears were clean. Have seen lambs tagged much older and always get infected ears.
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Ah, that's interesting. Mind you, this lot were tagged at three to four weeks old, at the same time as their first heptavac. Surely they're still growing like stink at that point?
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I used to do one tag at 24 hours and the second tag at first vaccination (4-6 weeks). The one done at 24 hours was always much better in the long term (not that i had any infections, but sometimes some scabs a few weeks later). So I do them both at 24 hours now.
I think it's a lot to do with the weather too - for mine they would rub their ears when there are flies around.
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I highly recommend roxan tags, never had an issue :thumbsup:
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I wonder if the colostrum antibodies provide some support to avoid infection when tagging early - these will have been mostly lost by the time of vaccinations which could then explain the higher rate of issues being mentioned.
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Interesting. I do mine early too. Typically within 4 days and never had a problem.
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Our lambs were tagged over a month ago, but I've just cut out a second infected ear tag this morning.
The same happened to a couple last year too, so I'm wondering what i'm doing wrong?
We're using Shearwell SET tags, and dip each one in disinfectant before applying it. Is there anything else we should be doing, such as spraying the ear itself?
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I tag hundreds each year, straight from the packet and never had an issue with infection.
Maybe try NOT dipping in disinfectant? Maybe because you are dipping not soaking, then applying to open wound (which tag would make) the water, which is likely taking on the dirt from your hand, is infecting the ear??
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Happy to tag lambs when ringing , never any problems . Try not to tag anything older may- oct or if raining . Sheep to be sold are tagged the day before going onto a trailer/lorry
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^ Cool. I think that's what we'll do from now on then Shep53. It would fit best with our system anyway.
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Interesting as last time a thread on tagging lambs
.. it was decided to tag later
. as they tended to get stuck and lose tags if tagged early!
comments?
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You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't!
Welcome to smallholding!!
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Tagged all mine in first few days this year.....8 weeks on and all still present and correct. Although most of my fences are electric so limited opportunity to get heads stuck
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Suppose my fields are fairly big and I rarely get heads stuck in netting , I have found lambs done at ringing have the least lifetime problems with tags even better than doing my ewe lambs in January which can develop an infection around the pin leading to an enlarged pin hole in the ear . I maybe get 1 torn ear per year but I put the tags as near to the head as I can get them, the ear is thicker and stonger
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I tagged mine last month but brought them in last night to check them over and noticed one had puss around the tag.
Will it come alright after a good spray of Terramycin or should i have cut the tag out and sprayed it?
Next time i tag i'll make sure to do it when it's colder outside and they are a lot younger.
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I think you'll probably find that it won't come right as long as the tag is still there. That's because the tag will keep moving about and opening up the scab all the time. Maybe if there's no improvement soon, then cut the tag out?