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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: Shire1980 on May 06, 2018, 08:34:40 pm

Title: Dagging difficult
Post by: Shire1980 on May 06, 2018, 08:34:40 pm
Hi, with the fresh grass coming through my suffolk hoggs back ends have got very dirty.
I've tried clipping them but i'm scared i cut them open and also tried using hand shears but its just too thick to cut through.
Has anyone got any advice or do i just keep an eye on them until the shearer arrives in the middle of june?.
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: landroverroy on May 07, 2018, 09:48:38 am
Get your hand shears sharpened, or buy a new decent pair, and persevere! :innocent:
There'll potentially be a lot of maggots available between now and June. :sheep:
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: twizzel on May 07, 2018, 10:56:06 am
Get a pair of Jakoti shears they will cut through anything (but be warned, very sharp)
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 07, 2018, 11:04:02 am
Be more scared of what will happen if you don't tidy them up.

Tips for nervous newbies :

Agree that Jakoti's are ace at staying sharp and not getting bent out of alignment.  I find I like to have a pair of short dagging shears (or even thin scissors) as well, because the Jakoti's are quite thick so sometimes the thinner blades can get under soiled wool where I can't get the Jakotis safely.
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: Shire1980 on May 07, 2018, 12:12:31 pm
Thanks i'll try again tonight with scissors.i was using brand new Nettex hand shears,won't be buying them again i'd be as well trying to cut through it with a piece of wood.
And i nicked one of their legs trying to get it with my electric shears. If i can't get it off tonight i'll ask the shearer if he could maybe come tidy them up asap.
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: Shire1980 on May 07, 2018, 05:43:43 pm
Definitely a job for a professional tried again and failed (leg cut open)its too thick and close to the skin.
I think next year calls for a better wormer than Supaverm.
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: twizzel on May 07, 2018, 06:44:54 pm
It could just be the grass... some of my ewes have become dirty behind despite best efforts to crutch, but they are on good lush ryegrass that's growing like a rocket. Suffolks are known for being dirty behind...  :yuck:  would be worth getting a pair of jakoti shears though... they are the bees knees for crutching and only about £25. Maybe FEC next time before and after worming so you know the wormer has worked (and don't use a combined wormer like Supaverm unless you really need to, use a narrow spectrum wormer and a separate flukicide if needs be).
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: SuffolkK on May 08, 2018, 08:37:50 am
I was in exactly the same dilema last year. I have invested in a battery operated pair of clippers - they are not cheap but for me have been essential. I crutched 6 suffolk ewe lambs at the weekend in 30 mins using them. They also had very mucky back ends, but I find the clippers can be placed close to the skin and then they just clip through the wool. I brought mine from masterclip and can totally recommend them
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: ShroppySheep on May 08, 2018, 08:02:52 pm
Just do a tiny bit at a time!
My sheep are fairly tame and use to me spending a while dragging them.

We’ve had two fly struck sheep on their tails already this year so definitely get it tidied up!
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: bj_cardiff on May 09, 2018, 11:29:32 am
I've been clipping horses for years and as hard as I could I just couldn't get the knack of clipping sheep, so I sold my electric hand held shears! The hand held 'traditional' once I couldn't get the hang of either.. Nothing seems to cut through wet poo - which is what I needed..

I get someone to hold the ewe and get a pair of pound shop scissors and put a pair of gloves on and get snipping. Unpleasant job but works well
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: shep53 on May 09, 2018, 12:11:38 pm
Jakoti will cut wet or even hard dried crap . But you should be cutting the wool under the crap
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: daveh on May 09, 2018, 04:19:42 pm
Any make of dagging shears will do. You just need to learn how to sharpen them.

Regards, Dave
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: landroverroy on May 09, 2018, 07:34:20 pm
Any make of dagging shears will do. You just need to learn how to sharpen them.

Regards, Dave


I have been shown how to sharpen them. That's not the problem! But I can't set the angle right after so they don't then cut properly. Fortunately I have a local retired farmer who does them perfectly for me.
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: Foobar on May 10, 2018, 04:52:10 pm
[member=6533]landroverroy[/member] - Burgon & Ball make a pocket sharpener which will give you the correct angle, which is handy for keeping them in tip-top shape.
Title: Re: Dagging difficult
Post by: landroverroy on May 13, 2018, 11:06:12 am
[member=6533]landroverroy[/member] - Burgon & Ball make a pocket sharpener which will give you the correct angle, which is handy for keeping them in tip-top shape.


Oh great. Thanks Foobar! :thumbsup: