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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: Calluna Croft on March 28, 2018, 06:51:20 pm

Title: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: Calluna Croft on March 28, 2018, 06:51:20 pm
Looking for ideas really.
Yesterday afternoon I found one of my hoggs flat out on the hill (I had seen her in the morning at feeding time and she was fine - it was a wet and cold day but nothing unusual for here). Unresponsive but alive.  I managed to get her back to a shed, gave her ketosaid, ultrapen and calciject 20 but didn’t hold out much hope.  This morning I tried to get her on her feet and she stood.  She stayed on her feet until a couple of hours ago, eating a wee bit of hay and pellets, drinking some water.  She is blind in one eye but I thought that was because she was lying on that side in the mud and it is infected (cloudy).  Before collapsing again she was foaming a bit at the mouth and raising her top lip.
Now she is flat out again, not trying to move but occasional leg spasms. Exactly the same as 24 hours ago.
I phoned my vet 4 hours ago who is apparently going to call back after a consultation with a wee dog...
Any suggestions while I wait would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: twizzel on March 28, 2018, 07:11:31 pm
CCN? But I’d be getting the vet out tonight and if your normal vet can’t come out then find a large animal vet that can
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: shep53 on March 28, 2018, 07:21:35 pm
VET could be a few things    ccn / Listeriosis  /  Gid  / hypomagnesaemia / poisoning
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: Calluna Croft on March 28, 2018, 07:49:08 pm
Thanks twizzel & shep53 waiting for another vet coming out.
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: crobertson on March 28, 2018, 09:10:31 pm
Hope she goes on ok and its not beyond treatable !
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: Sbom on March 28, 2018, 10:19:40 pm
Pneumonia?

What did vet say?
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: Calluna Croft on March 29, 2018, 11:21:32 am
Vet gave her Vit B1 and alamycin. He said it could be any CCN, listeriosis, unlikely to be magnesium deficiency (anywY I had treated her for that possibility), or she could have hit her head or eaten something poisonous (doubtful since she hasn’t been anywhere our sheep don’t always go). There is no point taking a blood test because where we are, by the time it would get to the test facility with easter weekend etc.   Anyway, she is still alive this morning and I managed to get her to drink some water.  She still isn’t standing but doesn’t seem worse.
I am just going to keep a good eye on the others and hope she is a fighter.
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: shep53 on March 29, 2018, 12:27:13 pm
Only thing I would add is that for CCN  she needs B1 three times per day every day . :fc:
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: twizzel on March 29, 2018, 01:29:15 pm
Only thing I would add is that for CCN  she needs B1 three times per day every day . :fc:


Our lamb that recovered from it had IV on day 1 and then 3-4 days once a day in the muscle. And metacam- it can help reduce the swelling in the brain.
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: Marches Farmer on March 29, 2018, 02:06:00 pm
Offering her bits and pieces cut from the hedgerow (dandelions, etc.) may stimulate her appetite.  Twin lamb drench gives a short-term energy boost.  Sometimes you just have to try and keep them going long enough for the meds. to kick in.
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: CarolineJ on March 29, 2018, 03:36:06 pm
Good luck, hope she pulls through.  My ill one still isn't feeling up to hay, but I'm keeping her guts ticking over by feeding her grass pellets as well as her ewe nuts, which she's eating quite happily (particularly with a bit of treacle on them).
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: Calluna Croft on March 29, 2018, 04:06:14 pm
Thanks for all the advice folks.  She is a tough one.  She is back on her feet, looking shaky.  No sign of frothing or raised lip.  Not eating really but drinking a little. Vet gave me a small bottle of Vit B1 - well by ‘gave’ I mean charged me a small fortune for  :) great to have though.
Title: Re: Ewe hogg collapsed
Post by: Calluna Croft on March 30, 2018, 09:21:06 am
A positive update for those following the thread.  I went in this morning and she was sitting chewing the cud.  She is drinking water, eating hay and a wee bit of ewe & lamb mix. I know she is not out of the woods but it is a remarkable recovery from where she was.