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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: storm35 on August 09, 2010, 06:05:18 pm

Title: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 09, 2010, 06:05:18 pm
£11 per chicken at point of lay is expensive? I have no idea of what breed they are, dont think they are any fancy breed. Partner and i were doing this for self sufficiency and country life way of living, but we think £33 for 3 chickens is a bit too over priced, would be ok if we knew what we were doing but so many things can go wrong and we are just starting out, the friend that is selling them knows this?
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: plumseverywhere on August 09, 2010, 06:09:03 pm
hi Storm

personally I dont' think £11 a bird is too steep - I paid £12 for my cheapest, £25 for my dearest (marans). they were all POL>  I know there is a farmer near here who sells off stock that have laid a year for £5 a bird.

just a thought, but have you considered rehoming ex-bats?

Lisa
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 09, 2010, 06:12:00 pm
hi Storm

personally I dont' think £11 a bird is too steep - I paid £12 for my cheapest, £25 for my dearest (marans). they were all POL>  I know there is a farmer near here who sells off stock that have laid a year for £5 a bird.

just a thought, but have you considered rehoming ex-bats?

Lisa

Thanks Lisa, yes i have registered with the rescue place, and i just missed a collection, so will probably wait until next collection and rescue some ex bats, and give them a loving home that they deserve.
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: jacob and Georgina on August 09, 2010, 06:14:31 pm
down here in devon we get warren hybrids for anywhere between 4-12 pound i paid 5.50 for mine so i would say that was pretty steeP!!!1! :-\
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 09, 2010, 06:15:35 pm
down here in devon we get warren hybrids for anywhere between 4-12 pound i paid 5.50 for mine so i would say that was pretty steeP!!!1! :-\


Thank you Jacob.
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: Sharondp on August 09, 2010, 06:41:35 pm
I think £11 is pretty average for a good laying hybrid. I charge £15 for black rocks and speckledys and £20-25 for my pure breeds.
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 09, 2010, 06:47:16 pm
I think £11 is pretty average for a good laying hybrid. I charge £15 for black rocks and speckledys and £20-25 for my pure breeds.
Thank you, will need to find out the breed of them.
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: doganjo on August 09, 2010, 07:01:27 pm
Perhaps a mix of hybrids, pure breds and ex batts would be a good idea - sort of hedging your bets you might say?
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: Daveravey on August 09, 2010, 07:55:29 pm
You can always go to Dobbies & pay upwards of £25 per bird   :D :D :D :D


Birds, like everything in life, are only as expensive as you are willing to pay for them
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 09, 2010, 08:00:25 pm
Thank you, as i am new to this, i had no idea what to pay. You have been a great help all of you.
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: shetlandpaul on August 09, 2010, 08:16:07 pm
commercial red hens at pol are around £7 up here. so thats with transport and the sellors cut must mean that they are going for about 6 on the mainland. we have crossed the reds with a number of breeds and you can get some funny crosses.
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: sheardale on August 09, 2010, 10:32:34 pm
I think thats dear.  My last previous lot of hens cost me £5 each.  Had then for years, but then Mr Fox got them.  I now have ex bat and paid £40 for them.  I am happy with that price..
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 09, 2010, 10:32:54 pm
They are rhode island reds, the breed we are getting?
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 09, 2010, 10:33:39 pm
I think thats dear.  My last previous lot of hens cost me £5 each.  Had then for years, but then Mr Fox got them.  I now have ex bat and paid £40 for them.  I am happy with that price..
Sorry to hear about Mr Fox, that is sad.
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: Roxy on August 10, 2010, 02:19:48 pm
It depends on what you want the hens for - if its just for having eggs to eat, then personally I would go for the ex battery hens.  The pure bred hens on the whole do not lay as many eggs as ex batterys.  If its for breeding from, then obviously pure bred hens are the better choice.

A friend of ours saw some nice birds at a big local show.  Never had hens before.  Ordered 12, and sent us to go over and pick them out, and pay.  I was gobsmacked as they were over £20 per bird, and this is a few years ago!!  he only wanted them for eggs, but liked the colours he said, well expensive do, if he paid that much just for the colour!!

Sadly, some got taken by the fox, so even more expensive.  I have managed to convert him to ex batts now, and he still has some of the original hens too.  But he is happy with the eggs, and has not commented on the colour of the ex batts!!!

To breed the hens, and rear them to point of lay is costly.  Hen feed has risen to a very high price in the last couple of years.  I don't think breeders are making a fortune out of hens at the price you quoted.
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 10, 2010, 02:22:17 pm
It depends on what you want the hens for - if its just for having eggs to eat, then personally I would go for the ex battery hens.  The pure bred hens on the whole do not lay as many eggs as ex batterys.  If its for breeding from, then obviously pure bred hens are the better choice.

A friend of ours saw some nice birds at a big local show.  Never had hens before.  Ordered 12, and sent us to go over and pick them out, and pay.  I was gobsmacked as they were over £20 per bird, and this is a few years ago!!  he only wanted them for eggs, but liked the colours he said, well expensive do, if he paid that much just for the colour!!

Sadly, some got taken by the fox, so even more expensive.  I have managed to convert him to ex batts now, and he still has some of the original hens too.  But he is happy with the eggs, and has not commented on the colour of the ex batts!!!

Thank you, yes its just for eggs, we are just going to go for ex bats, although we have to wait 2 months before next collection, so i hope the feed and straw will last til then.
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: Roxy on August 10, 2010, 02:28:56 pm
Due to the summer holidays, and lots of volunteers and rehomers being away, our next rescue will not be until September now, and probably other hens rescues run on the same idea regarding holidays.

I am sure you will be pleased with the ex batts, and they will lay for you once settled in their new home.
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: sheardale on August 10, 2010, 03:01:29 pm
Storm         If you look at the maretplace on this site you will find that woodlandproducts has some 12 - 14 week old hens for sale.  They are £6 each.  They are in Fife. Cheers Helen
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 10, 2010, 03:08:10 pm
Storm         If you look at the maretplace on this site you will find that woodlandproducts has some 12 - 14 week old hens for sale.  They are £6 each.  They are in Fife. Cheers Helen

Ohh really, thank you off to look.
Chris xxxxxxxxxxxx
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 10, 2010, 03:08:40 pm
Due to the summer holidays, and lots of volunteers and rehomers being away, our next rescue will not be until September now, and probably other hens rescues run on the same idea regarding holidays.

I am sure you will be pleased with the ex batts, and they will lay for you once settled in their new home.

Roxy where are you based?
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: Roxy on August 10, 2010, 04:54:08 pm
we are in Derbyshire.  I think the furthest Northern co ordinator for collecting hens from is North Yorkshire and Durham.  Perhaps you could apply to be a co ordinator in your area!!

www.henrehomers.net
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 10, 2010, 06:04:12 pm
we are in Derbyshire.  I think the furthest Northern co ordinator for collecting hens from is North Yorkshire and Durham.  Perhaps you could apply to be a co ordinator in your area!!

www.henrehomers.net

Will look into it, thanks.
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: Daisys Mum on August 10, 2010, 07:35:22 pm

I used to get my hens from Lauder Barns farm, that cant be too far away from you!
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 10, 2010, 08:18:38 pm

I used to get my hens from Lauder Barns farm, that cant be too far away from you!

Oh right will look them up if i can find number, thats 20 mins away from here.
Thank you
Chris x
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: storm35 on August 10, 2010, 08:21:03 pm
No they dont have any, just called them :(
Title: Re: Would you say
Post by: doganjo on August 10, 2010, 08:28:24 pm
Storm         If you look at the maretplace on this site you will find that woodlandproducts has some 12 - 14 week old hens for sale.  They are £6 each.  They are in Fife. Cheers Helen
Aren't there some free ones going too?