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Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: langdon on August 04, 2010, 09:54:39 pm
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want to start looking for nearest stud ( pembrokeshire) but am finding
it hard to locate one.
has anyone got any ideas or know of any in this area?
thanks for any reply ;)
langdon :goat:
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http://www.ukgoats.co.uk/goatsstud.html
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What breed have you in mind, Langdon? Seem lots of goat owners in Wales, so got to be some intact billies around
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thanks plums great info but a bit to far for me!
hope all is well
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havent really taken that in to consideration roxy, im just hoping to find one close by!
now that im here im going to pick your brains once more.
you know that milly is not a pure toggie, we noticed that there is alot of white coming through
her coat.
what can this be? what ever other breed she is crossed with?
cant be ol age!
hope all is well.
langdon :goat:
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Is Millie the one with the long ears or is that Molly? Are you going to breed from both? Really need to stagger the breeding (one this year, one next) so you have milk pretty much contast.
A lot of goats which are x breed have sanaan in them, which are the white ones. So, that could be the white, coming through when the coats change from summer to winter.
A lady wanted to buy Poppy and Primrose my two white kids - she thought they were pure bred Sanaans but they are not. Mum was a sanaan, but dad was a big British Alpine - black with a white stripy face and white legs. I was very honest and told her the truth (but she still wanted them!) So, if I breed from them, they could have kids the colour of their dad, or patched black and white (have had one that colour before now!)
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milly is the one with long ears!
thanks for advicing us to just mate one at a time!
makes that easier for us, seems hopefully that milly may have a sannen in her.
i like the black and white ' bagort, or something, im embarresed as i love these. you gt them as pigmy dont know about domestic.
langdon ;) :goat:
p.s. im sure james has got one
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;)hi where are you and are your girls cae tested the next question would be are they horned ?
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you mean like me...
(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt228/RuthP/june%202010/S7001360-1.jpg) ?!
Cesar is my registered pedigree Bagot billy goat.
they are bigger than pygmies... but not much! kind of the next size up!
proper mountain-type goats, and quite rare.
there is a bagot club website (but I make no comment on its usefullness ) I can ask my friend if any of hers went to Pembroke area if you like ;)
there is also info on the Rare Breed Survival trust site.
http://www.rbst.org.uk/watch-list/goats/bagot
If you and the girl goat want a holiday in Derbyshire, you're very welcome... :wave:
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also just found this...
http://rbst.org.uk/stock-exchange/goats
for artificial insemination etc of bagots..
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he is gorgeous little blue!! is he Max's dad? I think you might have a queue for him - Savannah is looking for a boyfriend this autumn too!!
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yes, he's Max's dad... can't you just tell ?!
I would absolutely insist on CAE test certificates, and a general health screen.... Bagot are "critical" on the RBST register, so he's valuable in so many ways..
:)
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I don't blame you!! I can see Max in him (or vice versa?!) from the pics :) they have some Bagot's at honeybourne (the fowl trust) but they look nothing like yours - he's positively glam!
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poser for the camera!
he's actually incredibly shy of people... and was pretty terrified when he saw our girls for the first time!
big wuss.... he's slightly calmer since Max came along, probably jealous of the attention the baby gets :)
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we are in tenby south wales.
one of them molly when she was dissbudded it was done wrong resulting in scurs ( this was done from where we bought them )
milly has no horns and no horn regrowth.
i am getting milly tested for cae as she is going to be first to be taken to a stud.
langdon :goat:
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he is fab his coat is amazing, i'd be proud to be his owner.
can you cross big goats and smaller ones?
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:wave: have you tried the BGS stud list for 2010` year
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he is fab his coat is amazing, i'd be proud to be his owner.
can you cross big goats and smaller ones?
we have!
Geraldine is a bigger than Cesar, we wouldn't have considered keeping a "big" billy (ie toggenburg like Gera, or a Sanaan like Margo)
but as it turned out, Cesar is quite manageable, shy and doesnt really smell ;)
Max has turned out big though, Cesar's previous owner saw him at 5 days old and said he looked about 2 weeks old... just shows how small pure Bagot kids must be!
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he doesnt smell, is that a kind of nudge as in get one!
you are giving me crossed vibes now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
beth my wife loves him and i have to say so do i
langdon ;) :goat:
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he doesnt smell, is that a kind of nudge as in get one!
Langdon, mate, that is entirely yours and your wife's decision
nobody ever recommended us to get our own billy, quite the opposite really... it was just fortune that gave us Cesar when we had no luck at all finding a stud.
and he's been company for G since Margo died til Max came along.
and yes, Bagots are lovely looking, and if you did want your own I'd say they are small enough for you and mrs goat to manage... and man enough for the job! ;)
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mrs goat!!!!! do you mean beth or the girls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
again he is a beautifull goat
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how do you find those horns when you are trimming his hoofs?
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Sorry, but ALL intact billy goats smell. You have got used to the smell, Little Blue. I have, and do not notice it now. Wait until the breeding season gets underway, and then you will definitely smell him.
Langdon, I will bottle the billy goat smell and send it to you. I have a feeling your Beth will say thanks but no thanks, to the idea of a billy goat. :D
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:wave:im with roxy give it a few weeks and when the mating season starts let us know what you think then ;) all entire billys stink and its a smell that gets onto & into everything during the winter :D
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lol
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mrs goat!!!!! do you mean beth or the girls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
again he is a beautifull goat
the girls of course... we have "mrs hen" "mrs goat" etc, even though they all have names... :)
so far, I haven't been able to get close enough to do his feet, Cesar is VERY timid, though getting better.
And yes, he does smell.. just not as much as any other billy I've ever met. perhaps he is just young... ;)
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Our Bobby is just starting to smell more in readiness for the mating season .....believe me, Little Blue, you will definitely notice. Its not been bad through the Summer I must admit. Although the vet walked past the door, and said I don't need to ask whats in there, the other week, so he MUST smell all the time.
You just have to accept that he smells, everything he touches smells, including you. So, hold you head up high, and when you go in the supermarket, watch people take a step back in the queue.......and then nip in the space they have left ;D
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brilliant!!!!!!!!
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So glad i read this post as on sunday me and my step son went to visit a rare breed farm they had lots and lots of goats of all shapes and sizes,they were in a row of pens some pregnant and some with kids that let you pick them up,then we walked around the corner to another pen which had 2 very large goats in cant remember what kind they were but oh i do remember the smell, im used to all sorts of smells with our animals but wow it really hit me,i couldnt figure it out why they smelt so bad when the others didnt,well now i know.
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:)