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Smallholding => Land Management => Topic started by: AndrewMBaines on January 02, 2018, 10:48:17 am

Title: Rat Poison
Post by: AndrewMBaines on January 02, 2018, 10:48:17 am
I bought some poison last week an learnt that soon I'll only be able to buy the weak stuff that doesn't work.
I was told there was an online qualification (£50 + VAT) that would allow me to continue buying the proper stuff and in sensible volume.
I can't find the qualification and can't remember what it was called - can anybody help?
Thanks
Andrew
Title: Re: Rat Poison
Post by: twizzel on January 02, 2018, 11:46:22 am
If you're farm assured this will act as a certificate of competence to buy proper strength rat bait. This link below may be what you're looking for? http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mvf/info/news/rat-bait-legislation-changes (http://www.molevalleyfarmers.com/mvf/info/news/rat-bait-legislation-changes)
Title: Re: Rat Poison
Post by: AndrewMBaines on January 02, 2018, 11:53:21 am
That looks perfect. Thank you :thumbsup:

£60 per attempt though - best get studying. :fc:
Title: Re: Rat Poison
Post by: harmony on January 02, 2018, 12:00:11 pm
The research has shown that the "weakened strength" bait will work so it makes you think. Have we been getting more rats per block with the existing bait or have we be buying bait that was stronger than it needed to be for all these years?



Title: Re: Rat Poison
Post by: Foobar on January 02, 2018, 02:18:27 pm
Better still ...  take a more natural approach :):   https://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=88858.0 (https://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=88858.0)
Title: Re: Rat Poison
Post by: Buttermilk on January 03, 2018, 08:26:38 am
The research has shown that the "weakened strength" bait will work so it makes you think. Have we been getting more rats per block with the existing bait or have we be buying bait that was stronger than it needed to be for all these years?
The weaker bait only works if there is no other food source, as they have to consume more to have the same effect as the standard bait.

I bit the bullet and went on the course, had a good day out and came home with lots of ideas from the other participants as we all had learnt effective ways, in different environments, for baiting rodents.
Title: Re: Rat Poison
Post by: AndrewMBaines on January 03, 2018, 08:29:07 am
I think the rat poison research was done by the same lab that decided that Creocote was a useful replacement for Creosote.
They also did water based gloss for external use and diesel cars to improve air pollution.  ::)
Title: Re: Rat Poison
Post by: Deere on January 03, 2018, 10:01:51 am
Ive done the course and its really easy even if you haven't much experience in the sector.

The best approach to controlling rats is to keep your place tidy and have any possible feed for the rats in rodent proof storage.

Give them no where to hide and nothing to eat.  Trapping and baiting if necessary can then be done effectively.
Title: Re: Rat Poison
Post by: Glencairn on January 08, 2018, 05:10:06 pm
You can get the more powerful second generation anticoagulants in 1 kilo tubs without doing a course:
https://www.farmandpetplace.co.uk/products/home-and-garden/pests/baits/sapphire-paste-1kg.html (https://www.farmandpetplace.co.uk/products/home-and-garden/pests/baits/sapphire-paste-1kg.html)

It's also possible to buy real creasote if you look hard, I got some from a local farm supplier by explaining that I worked in the industry.
http://www.cobbscountrystore.com/TIMBER_CARE-C600200 (http://www.cobbscountrystore.com/TIMBER_CARE-C600200)
Title: Re: Rat Poison
Post by: AndrewMBaines on January 08, 2018, 05:20:26 pm
You can get the more powerful second generation anticoagulants in 1 kilo tubs without doing a course:
https://www.farmandpetplace.co.uk/products/home-and-garden/pests/baits/sapphire-paste-1kg.html (https://www.farmandpetplace.co.uk/products/home-and-garden/pests/baits/sapphire-paste-1kg.html)

I've been told I can only buy the stronger poison until April this year. The 1Kg limit was introduced a few years ago.