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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: jameslindsay on July 28, 2010, 08:00:35 pm

Title: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 28, 2010, 08:00:35 pm
A few weeks ago one of my Isa Warrens went broody - 2 weeks after my cockerel was re homed. So, a friend kindly gave me 6 eggs for her to sit on. However, she is sitting in one of the 3 nest boxes and today 1 has already hatched.

So, here come the questions;

Do I move them now or wait until more have hatched? If I don't move are they not open for rats etc?

If I don't move them will they be safe when the others go to bed tonight?

How do I feed chicks if still in a next box?

I think moving them would be for the best as I could make them secure and ensure they get food and water. However, don't want to move at this stage incase it spoils any more from hatching.

Please help??? Thanks
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: doganjo on July 28, 2010, 08:33:10 pm
Can you move the whole nest box with her in it James?  Maybe even take it inside?  Not sure if that's possible in a hotel?  The others shouldn't be long in hatching but it would be a shame to lose them, and very much at risk in early stages..
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 28, 2010, 08:35:48 pm
No Annie I can't. I have just got a cardboard box, cut the front off it and am going to lift mum, chick and eggs in to it once I have filled it with straw. I am then going to move them inside so I know they are safe and sound.  :) I am hoping that I do not scare her during this process but think so long as she sees her baby and her eggs she will stay calm.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 28, 2010, 08:49:09 pm
Just moved them all and she is sitting calmly. I take it I am ok giving her and the chick a pile of straw?
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: doganjo on July 28, 2010, 08:51:25 pm
That's what I have always used, James but I know some people say it's a good harbour for mites.  I'm not sure about shavings as they give off dust.  How about newspapers?
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 28, 2010, 08:52:25 pm
I was just thinking of keeping them warm.
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Post by: woodlandproductsfife on July 28, 2010, 10:28:25 pm
good good James glad hter ok!

 Craig
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 29, 2010, 02:40:19 pm
Chick number 2 has now appeared and all doing well.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: Roxy on July 29, 2010, 03:02:46 pm
Pleased your hen has been ok during her move!!  Mine can be really difficult, and are determined that only where they have chosen to sit will do.

I don't use shavings with small chicks, as they do start pecking for food, and could easily choke on shavings, so straw is better. Although, all my hens scrape out whatever it is, hay or straw, and make the chicks sit on the bare floor for some reason.

Fingers crossed for a successful hatch. 
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: egglady on July 29, 2010, 07:27:25 pm
are these the silkies? 
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: dizzy1pig on July 29, 2010, 07:34:40 pm
mixed batch of eggs.. it will be a surprise...
i got 2 more today
if they are the same i reckon they are lavender araucana
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 29, 2010, 08:44:51 pm
Both chicks look the same, I see egg number 3 is now started pipping.
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Post by: woodlandproductsfife on July 29, 2010, 08:49:34 pm
woooohoooo come onnnnnnnn!
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: doganjo on July 30, 2010, 12:30:48 am
Can someone please remind me when I need to put water in the incubator for my duck eggs.  I think they are due to hatch on the 3rd(Tuesday), so do I stop the rocking tomorrow and add the water at the same time?
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 30, 2010, 11:21:08 am
Annie I never add water, I was told in Scotland it is not necessary.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: egglady on July 30, 2010, 11:44:06 am
what should the humidity level be for chicken eggs please?
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: egglady on July 30, 2010, 11:45:18 am
annie, i did add water and also sprayed them the last few days.  8/12 hatched which i am advised is a good rate, though i know james also gets a good hatch rate - though james i thought you did add water for DUCK eggs?
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 30, 2010, 11:49:06 am
annie, i did add water and also sprayed them the last few days.  8/12 hatched which i am advised is a good rate, though i know james also gets a good hatch rate - though james i thought you did add water for DUCK eggs?

Never Laura, I do spray them and since doing this way had far better success than when adding water.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: northfifeduckling on July 30, 2010, 12:01:04 pm
I was told hens' eggs don't need water, only ducks'. This would be to mimic mum going for a swim I reckon. If they do that anyway you won't need any. Our chick hatch was not really succesful but that  might be for other reasons.
 Glad she's doing so well, can't wait to see the wee ones! :chook: :&>
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: Sharondp on July 30, 2010, 01:09:14 pm
what should the humidity level be for chicken eggs please?

Originally 35%, going up to 55% at day 16, then up to 75% at day 18.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 30, 2010, 04:53:16 pm
3 chicks out now another egg pipping and I can hear the chirping from inside and I think egg number 5 may well be thinking about pipping. :)
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: dizzy1pig on July 30, 2010, 05:06:32 pm
Hey well done.. i not any new ones today unless under hens as they have all decided to sit on eggs
8 sitting at moment  heres hoping it be worth it..
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 30, 2010, 05:17:02 pm
Just got this pic of the chick thats out exploring...
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: Daveravey on July 30, 2010, 07:39:02 pm
Annie I never add water, I was told in Scotland it is not necessary.

I read that you run thyem dry til day 18, then bump the humidity up.

In saying that, i lost a Buff Sussex chick overnight due to a humidity fault in my incy (typical RCom fault)..... it had dropped to under 50%.

I also had to help another hatch this afternoon cos she had become stuck inside.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: doganjo on July 30, 2010, 07:42:09 pm
Even for ducks?  When do I turn the cradle off?
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 30, 2010, 07:55:31 pm
Yes, turn off 3 days before hatch date. Good luck.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: doganjo on July 30, 2010, 11:39:23 pm
Thanks, James! ;D
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Post by: woodlandproductsfife on July 30, 2010, 11:51:26 pm
what about a little update James please
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 30, 2010, 11:54:04 pm
Not much to say Craig. I know there are 3 hatched, I added some pics earlier of 1 of the chicks. There is another egg pipping and I can hear cheeping going on. Mum just sits there, so dedicated and loyal it is amazing.  :)
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on July 31, 2010, 09:35:51 am
When I checked this morning there are now 5 chicks and no signs, yet, of the last one pipping. I can't get over how mother hens just sits there and is so totally devoted to these wee things. I have to say I have enjoyed watching this.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: doganjo on July 31, 2010, 09:44:52 am
Better than any incubator, eh, James? ;)
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: northfifeduckling on July 31, 2010, 03:50:58 pm
Well - not all do, you're lucky! Our decided she wanted an only child, maybe next time more  ;D
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Post by: woodlandproductsfife on July 31, 2010, 08:51:19 pm
good good James, Must only be after the fam book ducky!!
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on August 03, 2010, 11:49:00 am
Took this of the 5 yesterday.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: woodlandproductsfife on August 09, 2010, 02:49:37 am
All still well James? not been on for few days, over the head.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on August 09, 2010, 09:00:56 am
Hi Craig they are all still doing great. Mother hen is just fantastic with them and as I keep saying it is a joy to watch them all learning and playing together.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: woodlandproductsfife on August 10, 2010, 12:15:58 am
thats brill, dont think it matters what it is. If they are babies its fantastic.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on August 11, 2010, 09:20:04 am
I have noticed that mother hen has been loosing feathers and underneath she is very scraggy and even bald in a few bits. Is this normal as she is not out and about as she was used to, or should I be doing anything to help her? During the day she and teh chicks are in a small run but I do let them all out several times a day for strictly supervised free ranging.
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: dizzy1pig on August 11, 2010, 01:45:14 pm
I never noticed it before but got a chook gone broody and she appears bald to cover the eggs... shoved her off earlier  to have a look!!!!
My other who is sitting on eggs is the scruffiest thing i have ever seen.. made worse by the fact she is a frizzle....

Silkie girls like boys from star trek by the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on August 11, 2010, 01:48:33 pm
Silkie girls like boys from star trek by the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

Explain yourself please Nicki??????
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: Sharondp on August 11, 2010, 01:48:39 pm
My black rocks have gone bald underneath where they've been sitting on eggs  :-\
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Post by: ellisr on August 11, 2010, 01:54:09 pm
My two orp boys have went bald but they were helping the hen with the eggs so probably that, they are a strange pair
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: dizzy1pig on August 11, 2010, 09:45:41 pm
poor wee guy will be lonely and girls may miss him
 ;D ;D ;D :D :wave:
Silkie girls like boys from star trek by the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

Explain yourself please Nicki??????
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: jameslindsay on August 11, 2010, 09:47:56 pm
poor wee guy will be lonely and girls may miss him
 ;D ;D ;D :D :wave:
Silkie girls like boys from star trek by the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
Explain yourself please Nicki??????


I thought you were going for emmotional blackmail you bitch!!! ha ha ha  ;D Will I be reported for such abuse???
Title: Re: Advice please
Post by: dizzy1pig on August 11, 2010, 10:05:51 pm
always worth a try....  ;D ;D :o
maybe he be a homing silkie and find his girls..
not far across the estuary..if you can swim
 :wave: :wave: :chook: