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Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: bamford6 on July 13, 2010, 03:15:18 pm
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just to let some people no that i had a hartatack on saterday evening
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Sorry to hear that Gary, hope you'll be OK. :love:
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still in hospital they say iv got to change life stiyle
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Sorry to hear about your heart attack. Hope you make a speedy recovery. Someone must be looking after all your birds for you?
My brother had a heart attack recently, at 47 years old. Back and forth to the doctor for a week, and then the hospital. No idea what was wrong, suggested hearburn. Then in the middle of the night he got pains in his arms and chest. Took 2 aspirin and back to bed, then the doctors in the morning. Rushed to hospital then. The aspirin probably saved his life. He had stents in, and is now back at work. Got to take it easy, and lose more weight, but he is a lot better.
It made me stop and think - I could be at risk if its a family thing.
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im 53 70 houres a week i dont see haw things can change
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70 hours a week is probably twice what most people do, Gary!! My husband does that many hours, and has two jobs. I have told him to cut back, but he says we need the money from his jobs, as well as mine. I am out from 6am until midnight feeding and watering animals all over the place......so suppose I too am at risk.
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Will the money you earn in 70 hrs mean anything if you are dead? No my friend you must change your lifestyle and soon. Your body has given you a warning! Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
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Get well soon. :)
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I am 53 in October ...had my heart attack about 18 months ago . Trying too hard to dig virgin land with a pick axe...I was stuck, just collapsed in the middle of my veggie plot on my land not visible to anyone . The pain was unbelievable ... couldn't walk couldn't even get up .. couldn't even crawl . Anyway after a few hours of agony and terror at the thought of kicking the bucket , I managed to walk up the very steep hill to the 4x4 , which I was still using then . It took me a couple of hours to move about 100 yards.
I got home , after stopping at the shop to get some aspirin !!! which I took 2 of in the shop . Sat down and fell asleep . Woke up later feeling horrible , but not at deaths door . They are not fun HA's .. now I walk to the land and do gentle digging and only in limited amounts a day . I am on aspirin everyday now , but it looks like I will need to have more tests as it gets a bit uncomfortable sometimes ... Blood pressure and heart beat are absolutely perfect so the doc says ...So ECG and tests here we come .... Hope everything works out ok with yours .... You can still get most things done ... you just have to do it a bit more gently ... 'chill out' as they say in the modern vernacular... ::) ;D
cheers
Russ
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Well Gary someone upstairs likes you as you have just had the warning! Some people never get a second chance so use it well. Take stock of your life and see how you can reduce your stress. Remember money cannot buy good health. All the best for a quick recovery.
Anna
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im waiting for angeagram wich shoud find the probi dont no haw i will do it i spent the day fixin the car for the mot.finished at tea time then cleaned 2 pens i felt bad so had a bath went to bed the hart nealey exploded as it was beating so fast .phoned the doctor and that was that .there is no way that i can feed the birds as that takes 3 houres in the morning and 3 in the afternoon as well as the other stuff.iv just took on black rocks .wich is a nother 100 birds to look after
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Im so sorry to hear you have had an MI but as others have already told you this is a warning that your body cannot and will not take anymore abuse.
Good luck with getting to understand that need for change in your life, I know its hard to do.
I hope it all works out well for you Gary.
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Take a step back and weigh up what's important and what you can LIVE without.
Glad you're making a good recovery :)
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We are so sorry to read your news Gary We hope you can get well quickly and adjust your way of life to suit.Money is no good if you are dead is it.See if I can make you laff."And I want all my money put in my coffin and burying with me I am not leaving any to any one then there will be no quarreling.His half brother a right flyboy took the lid off counted the money and wrote him a cheque.When his sister came in and caught him "You haven't a penny to bless yourself with the cheque will bounce for sure as you well know.You don't think he will try cash it do you?" ;D :farmer:
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take it as a timely warning Gary.
hope you feel better soon (and it isnt a long recovery)
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Sorry to hear that Gary. As others have said you need to take the warning on board and do what you can to slow things down and look after yourself. My brother didnt get a warning - he died of a heart attack aged 54.
Get well soon.
Val :)
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Hi Gary
Please do take it as a warning to slow down,my friend went on hols with her hubby to Egypt and came back on her own,he died of a heart attack on his birthday whist they were over there and he was only 50.
Wish you a speedy recovery.
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That's hard for you :(
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A warning to slow down, in one sense you were lucky to have a warning at least now you know things have to change!!!! I have changed a lot in my life style and still trying, I want to live a full and active life not have a stroke or be disabled......in a way, your heart attach has also given me a boost to maintaining a healthy life, thanks for the posting and PPPPPPPPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEASE take notice!!
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I hope you have a speedy recovery Gary. Do what you have to do mate ;)
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Hi firstly hope you enjoy a full recovery. Haven't spoken to you before on here, relatively new here, so I hope I don't over step the mark.
I worked my but off till I got my shocker. leaving home at 3:30am and returning home around 8 or 9 at night six days a week, because I had too, because I had to meet the bills, because I had to ensure my family were OK. In the end what ever you don't think can change; will, wheather you want it to or not, your body WILL make the choice for you, if you don't.
Ive had 3 strokes now, completely buggered and now my missus looks after me most of the time; bless her heart. I understand the pressures, the bills, the wondering what the hell would happen without the money, how the hell its going to work out etc.
You look after you, for you and for those who love you.
Take care, get well soon.
Mark
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Good morning Gary .We hope you are feeling better and on the mend.I don't know what the weather is like where you live but here in Gy it had a lovely gentle rain all day on Monday and the temperature dropped from 33C to 18 C lovely must be all the plants and weeds look alert revived and refreshed yesterday when it didn't rain but was cloudy and overcast all day and still 18C smashing.Made me feel like a new chap for a wee while ;D I think the weather may be returning to summer its already 17C and bright sun.I shall water the plants and stay indoors and finish off the few walnuts I didn't get done and put them in a different pail don't want to mix them.The others have a three day start in the brine.I have made some Raspberry vinegar for the suet pudds in the winter and some cordial plus a few in the jars and pressure cooked them as fruit for trifle.I hope Roy lets me have a few more as the end is in sight and I shall make some jelly cannot stand jam the seeds get in my gappy old teeth and cause much annoyance.There will be a few kidney beans ready for Sunday So it will be Roast beef Kidney beans Cauliflower cheese carrots and Home Guard new potatoes even if its 30c cannot miss the first kidney beans of the season my favourite vegetable.So there you are thats what I expect to happen in Gy.Get well soon George and Kath :D :farmer: :wave:
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we live in the highlands just out side aviemore just in front off the caingorm mountains.the snow will be back the end off september
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Ah yes thats as maybe, but will you be there to see that snow?
There is no excuse or reason not to slow down. :)
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Speedy recovery pal ;)
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Sorry to hear about your fright. As has been said above, this has been a warning. Slow down, throw out of your life what you can do without, at least for a while. Who will feed your birds if you drop dead?!!!! :(
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Perhaps your birds have taken over your life, Gary. Maybe now is the time to sell them on. My dogs are my life and I'll keep them as long as I can, but if that happened to me I would be forced to rethink as I wouldn't be able to look after them. Think about it. But don't worry about it or you'll give yourself another heart attack.
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Thanks for location.What you have told me / us is all one needs to know about ones where abouts without one is calling when you will have sent them an E mail no doubt.Now I know this.No borrowing Mam's ironing board and turning it upside down and coming down them hills like a bat out of hell as the saying goes ;D I dare bet the Elder flowers are only just coming out.Ours has been and gone and there is a green berry there now where the flowers were.TTFN G&K
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I know we are all being concerned and caring for Garys welfare and health, and saying slow down, reduce the workload etc. Yes, that is what he should do. BUT .....I can imagine some of us are doing the same number of hours, slogging day and night to make enough money to live on. Its part of our lifestyle, and is very hard when you are told to change.
I have had health problems over the past few years, and the doctor told me to take things easier. I tried for a while, changed jobs, reduced working hours, but then increased them again, and got more animals etc. Then a few weeks ago I started to realise, I was doing an 18 hour day, and still not doing everything I was supposed to. I had to make the decision to part with my much loved goats. It was heartbreaking, and has affected me badly. I only did it to try and reduce the workload and safeguard my health. And guess what? I am still out 18 hours a day.
Just how do you get someone to change their life, unless they get that wakeup call, Gary has just had?
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i was touched that some 1 thort the same about there animals as i do youre goats ment the world im the same iv had the best pens made best bedding etc and hatched lots off them and no them like the back off my hand i would think nothink on spending 2hours giving them hot food when it was cold .im thinkig off being a black rock agent on bringing on birds the problem is iv got about 60 pens with just over 300 birds 6in each pen iv also buiding a qual farm as well anni is right iv let things get out off hand .iv just put in 300qual eggs to hatch the 18this month soon as cash comes in off on the next thing i will have to cut back but i dont no haw iff i stopt the incubating that would help i put a lot off time into that i run 3 or 4 big incubaters .im at them 24 seven its as bad as smocking .i collect the eggs about 200 a day some times i swop a lot and start again so a re think no more incubating birds bought in the 1000black rocks no cocks no hatching no problems makes sence vaksanated job done its just stoping
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Yes, cutting down is the right thing to do, Gary, but no one would want or expect you to give up altogether, as its your life, and livelyhood too. You would be lost without your birds. Perhaps find someone to help you .....perhaps a teenager who has an interest in poultry, wants to learn, but unable to keep their own? You must have someone there now, who is feeding and looking to your birds for you, while you are in hospital?
It is a case of compromise - I am sure there is a way round it, to make it easier on yourself but still keep your birds, or maybe a reduced number. Your main priority is getting well again, and back home. But even then you will be told to take things steady for a while I am sure.
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the sheep qual chickins are my life nothink else matters in my world .when im with them its heaven .haw i will pick wich goes .i dont no.its like im not in charge dont eat exsercise i do more in 1 day than some in a week .finding it hard in hospital at the moment .just need to see my stock. would be happey then 5 days apart not good.the longest iv been a way 2 days.lockt up 24 7 and then a cownsaler to tell me to slow dawn diet etc .then the mother kids
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It's safternoon in Grimsby 1/2 2 near enough.I know and don't want one to find out a very good pal of mine had 10 H.A's and none of them killed him He died from testicular cancer. Wouldn't go to the Doctor. I thought that the staff at the hospital would have picked it up but it appears not. They do blood test for what you are in for plus any the doctor requests.
I suffer this C.O.P.D.very badly and have to keep plugged into a Oxygen enrichment machine in the house and trail a pipe about to keep me going If I go outside I have a Freedom 400 which is somewhat like an Aqualung on my back I use a cannula up my nose to breathe at six litres a minute.The cylinder contents don't last very long approx 4 hrs then it needs a full cylinder putting on.So to all intents and purposes I don't go far.Its Diagnostic Investigations on Tuesday next week I don't like that visit to DPWH at all.He sticks a needle in my wrist Its like a broken pencil and about as sharp makes my wrist hurt like hell for a day or two.Having told you all that rubbish I will attempt to encourage you.I spent a lot of time at Grimsby College as Teachers Assistant in the SLDD unit.I was not at all well one day and Kath called Doctor Twomey in I just could not struggle up to see him.He did all sorts of tests over the next week or so and He and the hospital suggested if I want to live a lot longer now would be a good time to give up woodwork the dust is not good for your lungs and prescribed me some medicines 4 sorts of inhalers and some steroids and antibiotics I want to see you next Tuesday at the same time in the surgery.He also gave me some Posh water and Vials of Ventolin to take through the nebulizer and its been all down hill since then Its some 11 years ago now.I cannot do any thing much I am so quickly out of breath The sats will be 92 and if I fill a 2 gallon water can I can only carry it 5 - 6 paces and have to stop for a rest.The sats will have dropped to 86 now so I just poodle along as best I can and that is it. I go over to Brocklesby and see what is going on.The new CR 9090 combine is in the yard but I cannot climb up into it.Carl says I will give you a bunk up with one of the Teleporters then you can have a round or two.I really am looking forward to playing with a 1/4 of a million pounds worth of Farm Machinery.There is no dust problem with it because it has a full air conditioned cab. I have an Racal Airstream helmet but it is no good in the workshop unfortunately.But I can still saw a bit of wood and nail and screw the bits together.Cut the ends out of plastic drums to make plant boxes and the like I just do what I can and then leave what I cannot.Life's kinda tedious now but its far far better than being dead although I keep doing it wrong I get much pleasure out of mu compooter.See I can do cooking still there is little moving about :farmer: :D :farmer: :wave:
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I am full of admiration for you, George coping with COPD - the only experience I have of it is my friends old horse suffers badly from it, and has to have a ventolin attached to a very large inhaler twice a day. Summer months are worst for him, he struggles to breathe poor lad.
Gary, I do sympathise with you being away from your birds and animals. I was in hospital one night, and I hated it. Felt so hot, hemmed in, middle of a town .....begged to go home next day and they had to let me. Then I was not able to do anything much for about 6 weeks, OH took me down to the farm, but I could only watch from the Landy as he fed my animals. That was a bad time, as I worried about them all so much. But, he cared for them, and they all survived. I am sure yours will too. I do understand what you are saying. My animals are my life too, but when you are ill, things are different, and in order to get better you have to rest and recuperate. Sooner you are better, sooner you can get back to what you love doing :farmer:
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i carnt imagine being ill.i would not be satisfied living a normal life with no future i have to be out side with the animals.i will slow dawn to a point but i will not pack up.i would be better off dead iff i have to sit and watch day time telle and g.o to a support group.i have a simple life no wrist watch time dose not matter. nor dos food at set time i get up have whot i like to eat and do whot i like iff i dont wont to have a hard day i take it easey.so my life has stopt dead im told when and whot in this hospital.i will stick it out but i wont last much longer do ing nothink.haw you cope i dont no. im always doin wood work pens fencing i get a buzz out off that have a nice day im still in bed
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I am in no doubt you WILL be able to get back to your animals etc. In fact, doctors encourage people who have had heart attacks to get back to their normal routine (within reason), My neighbour had a HA two years ago, very active man, always busy on his smallholding. Yes, he took it easy for a while, and got help with his fencing, and heavy jobs. But I have seen him up on his outbuilding roof re felting, out in the fields doing all sorts of jobs. He has changed his diet, etc. but his life goes on as before in respect of his farmiing, and other jobs.
My brother was in hospital a week, including having his stents put in. Been about three months now, and he is back at work. Just doing full time again now. Still going to physio, and says he does get out of breathe at times, but all in all, he feels ok most of the time.
So, don't think you will have to live a normal life, Gary.......focus on getting better and back to you outside life which you enjoy.
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Just read this thread OMG Gary if ever there was a sign to slow down a bit this is it. Remember everything in moderation. Big hug to you and hope you're back to full strength soon.
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Just been talking with my friend Tom down Boston way and he told me he had a Potato Buyer on the farm this morning and he offered £35 a tonne for Desiree.That is them that are all red skinned. Just have a look in the supermarket at the retail price next time you are in ??? :farmer:
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Hey Gary just catching up with the site so sorry to hear about your situation, hope you are on the mend soon. Always enjoy reading your posts, take care.
JD
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Hi Gary hope you make a speedy recovery and are back to your animals and birds soon :wave:
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Good Morning Gary We hope you had a comfortable night and feeling better still.G & K :farmer: :wave:
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Hi, Gary. Just catching up - so sorry to hear about your heart attack. Hope you're on the mend and will be home soon.
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this is day 5 people and staff very good but sitting and waiting is not for me iff im here the week end il go mad .very desperate i carnt beleave that time is so slow looking out the window is the onley thing that i can do .i do thank everey bodey for there support.
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Have they put a stent in or anything, or given you any more treatment? I would say once the stent is in, they will let you go home ....so long as you promise to be good and not do too much ;D
At least you have a window to look out of - but is it a nice view? What about the other patients, surely there is someone you can chat to, to pass the time? My brother said the worst thing was having to stay in bed all the time.
Never mind, I am sure you will be home soon.......because they will have a waiting list for your bed!!!
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What about using the time to read something you never had time to do before, some farming mags, local history, family tree stuff etc. or even write some latters, keep a diary even on scraps of paper.. I know the times I have been in hospital I have been too ill to concentrate on reading so I know thats not for everyone!! I assume you must have internet, what an asset. Try to convince yourself you are on holiday!!! being looked after and fed, when you get home have you people to help you?
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i do read the small holder .i had the test anagram there is no damage to the hart it was the electric spark that kics in to put the hart back from full speed there is onley mield narrowing off the hartaries with some 1 my age so can be put right with a fix and some medication .so things are a lot better i will be home latter and looking forward to seeing the stock all the best.the wether is very bad at the moment been raing 2days on and off kids holaday again
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That is good news Gary.Sorry Good Morning TAS Pal.That reads like something David had last Christmas Day He was taken to hospital with an heart attack but it later turned out to be some thing to do with the plumbing to the heart that starved it of blood as I understand it.So good news if it is the same.He has been back at work ages he was only off less than a month He says he is as good as he was before the scare We hope yours is the same as David's and you recover as quick has he did and are as well as he is after recovery :D G&K
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I'm so glad to hear things are looking up. Even so, take things slowly when you get home, take your time feeding, cleaning out etc. and take a lot of time just leaning over the pens and looking! Hope things go well for you.
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So glad your gonna be ok Gary. Enjoy getting back to your home and your stock. :)
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That sounds promising news then ......you will be pleased to get back to your birds etc. I am sure!!!
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got back 4 15 alls well been a walk round birds growing well bit tired and thanks for the support its all i had in hospital people that card about life that we lead with the animals. the incubating season will come to the end soon and that will half my load / iv a lot off qual out this week end havent done eney think with them no water candaling nothink wel see whot happens
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Good to hear that you are home just remember to try and take things slowly, as long as the basics get done many things can wait! :chook:
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this is the problem in a nut shell
Electrocardiogram (ECG) showing supraventricular tachycardia
What it means
'Supraventricular' means the problem occurs in the upper chambers (atria) of the heart.
'Tachycardia' means an abnormally rapid heart rhythm.
Supraventricular tachycardia (SVT) is a heart condition featuring episodes of an abnormally fast heart rate. It usually starts suddenly, races, and then stops or slows down abruptly.
Episodes can last for seconds, minutes, hours or (in rare cases) days. They may occur regularly, several times a day, or very infrequently, once or twice a year.
The heart rate may be as high as 300 beats per minute, but is usually between 140 and 180 (a normal heartbeat should be 60-100 beats per minute at rest).
What happens
When the heart beats normally, its muscular walls contract (tighten and squeeze) to force blood out and around the body. They then relax, so the heart can fill with blood again (see How the heart works). This process is repeated for every heartbeat.
In SVT, the heart muscle is contracting so fast that it is not able to relax between contractions. This reduces the amount of blood being pumped around the body, which can make you feel dizzy and short of breath (see Symptoms).
You will usually feel palpitations (the sensation of your heart racing in your chest) and a fast pulse.
Why it happens
SVT is caused by electrical impulses that start suddenly in the upper chambers of your heart (the atria). These impulses override your heart's natural rhythm (see Causes).
It is often a short circuit in the electrical system of your heart that causes these spontaneous impulses. The short circuit causes an electrical signal to travel continuously around in a circle. Each time the signal completes the circuit, the impulse spreads out to the rest of your heart, forcing it to beat rapidly.
SVT attacks often happen for no obvious reason. However, they may be triggered by a change in posture, exertion, emotional upset, coffee or alcohol.
Who is affected
SVT can occur in anyone at any age, but it often occurs for the first time in children or young adults.
Outlook
In the vast majority of cases, attacks of SVT are harmless, do not last long and settle on their own without treatment.
If necessary, SVT can be treated with drugs that correct the abnormal heart rate, or permanently treated with a very effective surgical procedure called catheter ablation, which interrupts the abnormal electrical circuits (see Treatment
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Just remember, we are in charge of our own destiny, if you choose to take the fast road and get to the end sooner than you should, well thats your choice....just as long as you enjoy life :bouquet: Glad the let you out!!
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This reminds me of a story -
A man goes to his doctor with really bad pains. He explained his symptoms and then described his lifestyle (which was 'excessive')
The doctor paused for a while then said "Your condition is serious and potentially fatal" The man said "What can I do?"
The doctor said, "firstly you must stop smoking 60 a day. You must also stop drinking those 14 pints per evening. Lastly you should stop fraternising with that lady of the night four times a week. AND the two ladies on Saturday!!"
The man asks "If I stop all this, will I live longer?"
The doctor says "NO but it will seem like you have." ;D ;D ;D
Glad you are doing better Gary. It's great that you are back home.
Ian
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Good Morning Gary We hope you are feel and are better than yesterday.Its WP's and Jess's day today and he was under the weather in the week so I shall go and bid him good tidings.Are you out and about gently yet? Hope so George and Kath
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Welcome home. Take it steady!
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Get some help with dem boids, laddie! Great to hear you're home, look after yourself! :love: :wave:
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Have I turned into a fungi? I appear to. I am being kept in the dark and fed loads of bullshit! :farmer:
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yes i got back the lads done a good job as they can but they have no idea iff some thing is wrong .i switcht the turners off on the incubaters no water in no life.pict 1 egg up flikt it filled the water up dropt the temp and went back with him saterday morning qual all hatching .just no whot to look and doo . taking things a bit easea
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Doesn't sound to bad Gary.They sound to have done their best for you.Progress gently forward and all will be well. G&K
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yes the hatch went well went round with him done all the tweaking that needing done and all is well .slept till 3 am still not in routine
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Nite nite!!!
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Hello Gary How are you today still improving We hope.David called in to see us yesterday pm He is the son that had a similar attack to you last Xmas Day Other than he looked as black as a Golliwog (He works in the coal yards on Immingham Dock as a maintenance fitter ) He looks and says he feels as good as ever.I showed him this thread and he says Its the bloody oxygen it spoils the taste of yer ale.You'll be alright in a month or so I was :D So lets hope you feel the same :D :farmer: & K :wave:
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give it time Gary.
a very dear friend had a bypass this time last year and is still recovering, hope you go on better :)
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yes i will .im looking at cutting back on some things it takes 6 houres to feed and water just the birds thats not cleaning out so triying to get that dawn to a couple off houres insted off 6 my son worked 8 houres a day just to keep in touch with the work .so the incubaters will be sold to eney off the members .the silkies and most orpingtons that inc gold lace bantams and large fowl some blacks some chocklates the black silkies are tinson and hiden 4 hens 1 cock very high standard .the eggs would cover the cost off the birds in a mouth 6 eggs 20 pound .i worked the week before the problem 14 houres just cutting grass and 70 houres is avarage 7 days a week .the birds have got out off hand i sold a lot off young stock so things getting there still ow money at the moment ...........i think that the members on this site are fab its the messages each day that gave me hope .i will be a black rock agent by september this will cut the incubating out and have stock to sell when i need it .not when the wether sees fit to have no stock to sell .all the best for sunday evening gary
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Ah Gary. Good luck to you mate!
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same here.
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;D Steady goes it!!!
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Well its Monday Gary. Every day we hope for you feels that bit better. Now don't do to much and stretch its stitches inside.As Sandy says steady as it goes and you will soon be up and amongst em' agen ;D :farmer:
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take it easy chap, you will soon be up and around. my dad had 3 stents a couple of years ago and that took him a good 6 months to get used to, but now he is right as rain and back to normal if not better! so dont rush
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iv been out checked alls well .the last lot hatch this week end and i think thats it for this season .for some 1 thinking about chickins i would go qual very easey to look after very good at hatching and 5 pound each .the eggs are sort after very high in protean .i hatch 100 at a time they lay in 7 weeks not like chickins 6 months .you could easey set up a qual farm a shed the size off a garage 7 or 8 pens 60 hens 20 cocks in each about 300 eggs each day sell the week ends eggs on e bay tuesday wensday for the food and rest is youres at least you would make some think
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Sounds good, my daughter had some and she ended up with only one male and he is lovely, not productive....interesting food for thought ???
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the first 2 incubaters are for sale e bay 170515821390 this will give me a sigh off releaf tring to get stock for the 1 st march still had snow and no fertilatey still the same for april then onley 50 percent for may then when i got 550 chicks 300 were cocks no wonder i was ill .it would send some people mad .the warm week after easter lambing then 15 inches off snow miles from home looking for lambs at 5 o clock in the morning .i can see naw whot went wrong
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Hello Gary We hope you are still improving Don't get excited it can be as bad for you as frustrated and doing to much. and you haven't done anything physical.Take care now theres a good chap.Cheer you up think about Wizard at 2 ish hes having needles at the D.I.U. then. ??? and you lot :) ;) :D ;D :farmer:
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best off luck with that .my arms are black at the moment . not a bad day
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Are you recovering well Gary? i know my appendix is not even in the same league as you, but mine seems to be going well
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Hope you are getting better by the minute gary.
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Sorry its nearly afternoon,we hope you still improve Gary. Been at the quacks and then the chemists Oh Dear Oh me Oh my as Wally Gaiter would say :D :farmer:
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very bad wether at the mo ..it looks like the last chance with the mowing grass next week .carnt bail it wet some wether forcast very good next week will cut 3 fields next week .i think im up to that just hope i havent got to wait to turn it then bail .need to cut 1 in square bales and the rest round .will get some help .they wont work my houres thou
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Now you be carefull Gary else I shall send Kath to tune your arse wi a wooden spoon She is an exspurt having raised 5 boys ??? ;D :farmer:
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Wizard haw about being my farm maniger .you could tell us whot to do.when somethink goes wrong youre to blame that would be fine ,,,,problem haw do we make it pay we have no money in the kittie as it was spent on petrol going to the hospital and stuff.iv still got 150 lambs to sell and some birds the incubaters will be sold this morning .that will sort the shoppin eney idea on haw to sort
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Snag is Gary as I see it you have to have now't ter git inter the system.You have some lambs so you have money It don't matter your bank manager says you have none he don't know he's a fool.We know you have money else you would not have lambs and what do you feed them on They (The Big Brother Mob) know every thing they think and it is one of the most difficult things to do convince them different.If you can manage it you are away.Nothing is to much trouble They offer help all round but you must ask and ask the right question.They will tell you nothing if you don't do it their way.Acquiring a Blue Badge is a good start if your doctor will support you in this That proves you are poorly and need help.It is not the be all and end all but it is very usefull as well as being good for parking Give the system a try mate you never know your luck in a draw ;D ??? ;D :farmer:
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i have blue badge and on high rate mobility iv got Ankle Arthritis's 1 new hip i new knee. Knee replacement fixt shoulder and plated for arm .i had 21 breaks when i was 28 got the compinsation from the services bought a hotel on the sea front als well then i thort off a new life in Scotland my mate went bust on his farm so i took the tenatsey on for 5 yeres he still lives in the house i live up the valley in a new build he dos whot he can and i do the rest for 2 yeres its been fine then this bad winter was hell ran out off feed in the new yere £25 pound a day plus the birds will send some picks best
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Oh Gary sorry to hear your poorly's. I seriously doubt if you will be able to join the system. You are on your own pal sorry :farmer:
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Animal feed is very expensive nowadays, and you need to be making plenty of money off the animals and birds to make it pay. I have around 5o laying hens, and then raise chicks, bantams and silkies to sell on. The hen feed bill alone is a lot, and I am now cutting back on my poultry, and hopefully my feed bill.
Lamb prices were up a while back, not sure how things are now. I know a lot of farmers round us are struggling to keep going on their farms, and a lot have come out of the milk business, and diversified. Golf driving ranges, livery horse yards, bowling greens, caravan sites, farmers are doing all these things instead of farming.
Thinking about it, I am about the biggest hen keeper for quite a few miles, in fact not sure where my nearest neighbour with hens is, so that shows, people cannot afford to keep them any more. Let me do it, and buy my eggs - sensible people eh?
Gary, sounds like you have a lot of health problems, and it must have been a struggle in the winter to keep going and feed all those birds. Bad enough for a healthy person to cope with.
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roxey its just got out off hand iv just looked whot we have at the moment American buckeye - aracuna lavender -
cochin silver cuckoo - croad langshan bantam- dorking silver red white-
duck aylesbury cayuga chilean teal red crested pochard mandarin - geese
hawaian red breasted -hamburg gold laced. -indian game blue
laced. -ixworth. -jersey giant blue. -orpington buff choc lavender black
gold laced. -pekin lemon cuckoo lavender partridge red buff black lavender
cuckoo. -plymouth rock barred. -polish millefleur. - rhode island red. -
quail japanese chinese californian. - silkie white black red red bearded
gold blue.-sablepoot gold lemon. - vorwerk. - wyandotte silver gold laced. -
pheasant gold yellow lady amhurst. black rocks wich is 270 birds 42 black rocks and 45 young qual .iv sold the incubaters to day so looking whot to move the young stock takes 2 houres the others take 3 houres in the morning and 2 last thing thats 7 houres with nothink else and i can honistley say i havent made nothink this yere as i missed the sales erleer on .so i need to loose half or all and start some think else naw the feed bill £260 everey 2 weeks 130 a week eggs sale 35 still leaves 95 a week with out vets bills so £95 chickin food diesel 30 petrol 30 tesco £150 electric etc thats just over £300 a week iff i do nothink so i naw need mega help
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You have plenty of good birds there. Surely selling say half of them at least will raise you a bit of cash, and cut your feed bills, and work load.
I know you have to find something else to do instead, but at least selling will be a step in the right direction.
I have cut down my hens by about a third, due to the feed bills, and everything else like bedding, shavings, wormers, and not we are infested with red mite for the first time ever, so spent money on stuff to get rid of that. And this week alone I have lost two silkie pullets and two more chicks have been taken - all pullets. Why is it always the pullets that die/get eaten? It sometimes makes me want to pack up completely.
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Hello Gary.Well its another bright start here in Gy hope its what you want up your way so you can have a wander out and get better still and you are soon really well.I have reported on last night on my reply to Mick and Chris It takes me ever so long to hunt and peck Wheres the rotton v gone I don't think I have used it this mornin yet ah there it is ;D Very soon we hope! a delivery van man is bringing a parcel then we can go to town to do a bit of shopping,I know I tell you we go on Saturdays but its the steam rally this weekend so since I have passes we just might go both days.Its great meeting old friends and making new ones.Here is a little ?? Why can I with my respiratory ailments get steam engine smoke blown in my face and it does not make me cough and choke one would think I would be very upset with it but I am not it doesn't affect me at all We shall be like Yogi and Bu bu take a picernic basket and enjoy our sel that v's gone agen ;D :farmer: :wave:
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Hi Gary, my OH has the same heart problem as you. Like you money is a
huge MASSIVE issue now. Only advice I can give is don't stress it doesn't ease the money worries and only adds to the health ones. Stress is counterproductive. As my OH constantly reminds me its so easy to say, not so easy to actually do. Hope things improve for you very soon. HM
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Roxy funney you say that just before i went in hospital i decided that the best birds i would vaccinate i had some supper birds 8 9 weeks old .i thort id use the vet first time so £20 pluss the vaccine so i did all the chicks .the very next day found 4 dead 4 the next day and up till to day iv lost 17 so i phoned the vet ,she said the birds couldent be strong enough i went mad they was silkies peakins orpingtons all that work for nothink im the same i could just jack up .like you said you carnt loose whot you have iv been selling stock all week to get the young stock dawn
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Gary you are getting all excitable. Stop it!
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sheila lifes bad at the moment i went out for a couple off houres id had enough still tired
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No pain as such Gary but I feel worn out all the time like you are just now. This bloody awful humid weather is not helping.Roll on winter! Oh no I don't want a foot of snow no and I don't want 0s degrees F either.Some nice 12-16 C Will suit me grand. A chap was telling me we want a few good sharp frosts it will kill some of these bugs off.Now how do you know that I asked.Take the bull in the bowler hat.How do AI save that? Loads of things are kept in cold conditions and then revitalised :D :farmer:
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i think it would be a good idea to live in youre part off the world bought stock from lincon seems nice place to live .warmer not menney frosts the place was spilsby hagworthingham very nice stock took us 8 houres i think we will be at peterbrough autum show on the 1st or second week off october havent put pen to paper yet the edinbrough festival final will be on the 4th 5th september will be there for that big big fire works .have a nice evening
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Hello Gary Good Morning.Thanks for your interesting post We hope You are still improving and getting about a little bit I am still thinking you and David had similar attacks.When he next calls I will get him to write down what was wrong with him then I can tell you he was only off work a month at most I will find out for sure today.I am sure his tale will encourage you.If you go to the East of England Show Ground You will no doubt go via the A1 That is the main road to Scotland from London up the eastern side of England and it misses all the best parts of Lincolnshire It now bypasses Grantham and Stamford.A place you may know of is close to Grantham Burleigh Horse Trials? There is always a big fuss when they are on down that way.Yes in Grimsby we have the best of the weather really no proper cold frosts ,little if any snow last winter we had some snow it was 35m/m on the island out side my front and the silly bloody drivers still banged into one another.It only lasted all morning.10 miles away there was over a foot and where David lives it built up to 2 ft in places but noting serious.Our big problem is rain we don't get that much.The combine harvesters have been at work over a fortnight now and the Foreman at Brocklesby Farms rand and said We will be in the Rape tomorrow if you are coming to video the new machine .Both of them Yes One behind the other? I 'll tell Andy to follow close so you can get some like you did 4 in line.That was 5 year ago now.He organised the drivers to come together and drive one behind the other down the field working that cuts a 100 foot at a pass with 4 machines .These 2 new CR 9000 series cut 38ft at a pass so they only do about 75foot the 2 They are very big on tracks Not much good for your 10 acres though ;D hope you can soon get about to see some working up your way :farmer:
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we onley have 1 place that serials grow the combines are contract at £1000 pound a day and they rip the fields till its done corn weat is onley just over 95 pound a ton .thats bad 18 months ago 150 pound a ton .i dont no wich way farming will go .there wont be eney caws in the fields thats for sure .nere abberdeen they are building 4 barns to hold 4000 holsons that will produce all the milk in the top half off scotland all male carfs will be got rid off so big things happening .sheep will onley be in wales its mad .the next thing will be poultrey iff the feed goes eney higher that will be cut 1 bale wood shavins £7 to 8 .50 chick crumbs 11.40 the countrey wont be able to look afer its self iff some think went wrong . im naw going to sell most off the rare breeds this week i will onley have black rock and my fuew favarates left im not botherd about the money i just need to get that feed bill dawn .the birds we have are worth a bit but there is no sales till late august as it is i have no 1 that can put the time in to look after the birds . at the moment its a good 5 houres and the grass is more important then them .the sheep need there feed through the winter .by thersday half will be gone .i will invest that money ito 1000 black rock chicks wich i will bring on through till christmas i can then hit the erley sales
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Gary tell me about it I have been saying the British Government DO NOT WANT BRITISH FARMING The whole lot Cons - Lab - Lib The clique we have now.Tell me something they have done that is / was good for the British Farmer.Allowing Building and such on prime agricultural land.The ded cow scare Which was absolutely ludicrous.Oppererating cost spiraling ever upwards Fuel costs Silly H&SE rules the price realised on the farm produce Did you read my Tom story. Then compare it to the supermarket prices.Where will it all end?I don't care much no one of importance will listen and I shall not be here much longer so.Grow what I can cadge and swap what I cannot and pay through thenose for the rest.There you are Gary That should have cheered you up ??? If it wasn't so serious ;D ;D ;D :farmer:
So what the Hell as this to do with this thread? Every thing to do with it The worry and the suicides in the farming world are enough to give anyone a heart attack and or a stroke or something anything but a good living.If its so bad why don't the farmers get out?I will tell you why its easy The Farmers Dad was a farmer his was and so on his son also will be a farmer it is bred into them they know nothing else poor sods. The time is coming very fast for a revolution. ??? Only trouble is when youv'e turned round its no better :farmer:
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bamford6 hope you are getting better by the day..I love going into Edinburgh and we had ring side top notch seats one year for the tatto but could not get out due to the B&B!!!!
I liked the look of Linconshire too but we needed to be able to work if our self emplyment did not pay!!!! Please take it easy!!!!!
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Goodness, what a chequered life you have had, Gary! Hope you don't have any more heart problems if you move away from here, as it would be costly in Spain! At least you have the NHS here! ;D ;D
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Well, you have done a lot more with your life so far, than most people!! You have certainly had a varied work life!!! You say you left school with no education, but you should be proud of what you achieved, setting up and running all those businesses. You must have worked hard to do this.
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wow what a fantastic life story. whilst you are incapacitated you should write it all down and sell it. Another auther will tidy it up for you and it would I'm sure be a runaway best seller. Maybe even made into a film. Who do you fancy to play you? Mel gibson perhaps?
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Hello Gary Sorry I didn't report yesterday .We went swannin off to the Steam Rally A Grand Day Out.I am paying today though.Hope you had a good day and even better one today.G&K
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Gary, I'm gobsmacked!
You've packed so much in to your life, we just keep hearing more and more stuff 8)
Get better soon mate so that you can give us more info and possibly move on to greater things...is that possible? Great stuff mate,
Ian
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Sorry to hear that, get weel soon
Craig
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All of that makes a lot of peoples lifes, including mne, look dull! It is not at all suprising that your body is crying out for you to relax, you live life in the fast lane and if not careful, will get to the end far too quick and miss out on the chill out lounge!!!!!!! Hope you are doing well, that film looked good!!!
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i have naw sold half the stock i will concentrate on the black rocks and qual .iv been using half a ton a fortnight which is 200 pound .iv onley got 12 chicks left .iv also sold 2 off the incubaters i will have a nother stock take and thin dawn more .feal beter for that .the price was not good iff i waited for the sales the feed bill would carey on . iv also cut all the grass so waiting for the sun.
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Yes, Gary, as Sandy says, it's not a race. I've lost two great husbands to accidents, so neither of them got to that 'chill out lounge' as Sandy puts it - I'm trying very hard to make up for them losing out! ;)
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doganjo when mum lost dad she still carnt get over it 6 yeres and it still gets to her
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As IS our eldest son Not was Is he is forever in our minds What's he up to today? Wonderfull memories all the time ;D :farmer:
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doganjo when mum lost dad she still carnt get over it 6 yeres and it still gets to her
It is very hard, Gary. I don't think anyone ever 'gets over it' Some people are stronger than others and accept what has happened. I am a very practical person - black is black, white is white, there is no grey - so perhaps it was easier for me to make a new single life for myself than your Mum. All you can do to help her is encourage her to have hobbies and get out with her friends. And it is more difficult the older you are too. I was only 59 when I was widowed the second time, and was still working - that helped as I was forced to get up in the mornings and see to the animals before going into the office.
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well well, for the past 15 months I worked full time as a hgv driver, at the same time I started my business. I worked by day on the lorries and by nite and weekends on the shed building. on June the 7th. I didnt go to work as I was shattered, and never went back, That was when I realised the saying, "hard work never killed no one" was a load of muck. Though Im still as busy on my own, least I get to come home for a little time every nite, I dont want to be the dead busy bee, only here once.