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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: jheard on September 29, 2017, 09:28:42 pm

Title: Land advice post rooting
Post by: jheard on September 29, 2017, 09:28:42 pm
Hi all

We have our first pigs this year - saddleback pietran cross. We're raising them for pork and so far so good. Happy chilled out pigs ready to go end Nov. So happy!!!! But just wondering what advice people have for land post pig-rooting. They're doing a good job but not overly crazy. Rooting down 2-3 inçhes but turning clods not leaving even earth. They're in about 1/3 acre plot with another 1/3 to go into when they're all rooted up but at the steady state they're going this 2nd third can be used for next years pigs.

So my question is can we let the plot recover on it's own? Should we rotavate it to even it out? Do we need to re-seed? If they only need 1/3 acre each year, we would need to use the area again in 2019.

All advice very much appreciated!!

J
Title: Re: Land advice post rooting
Post by: harmony on September 30, 2017, 08:08:37 am
I would pop some grass seed on and if you have the means to even it out before you do then go ahead.
Title: Re: Land advice post rooting
Post by: Marches Farmer on September 30, 2017, 09:34:37 am
Grass seed  The rooting will have unearthed lots of weed seeds that will germinate in response to higher light levels.  The whole thing will be choked with docks, thistles and nettles before you know it - one year's seeding = seven years weeding.
Title: Re: Land advice post rooting
Post by: jheard on October 01, 2017, 08:51:32 am
Thanks Marches Farmer - now if only the same were true for the rest of the garden  :D
Title: Re: Land advice post rooting
Post by: landroverroy on October 01, 2017, 09:57:45 am
Grass seed  The rooting will have unearthed lots of weed seeds that will germinate in response to higher light levels.  The whole thing will be choked with docks, thistles and nettles before you know it - one year's seeding = seven years weeding.


That is very true.
However, if you put your grass seeds on now, you will have all the docks, thistles, nettles etc germinating at the same time and growing in the grass.
The traditional way to get rid of the weeds is to leave the soil bare over winter so all the undesirables start growing. Then you plough them in in spring, which buries them, and plant your grass onto what should be fairly clean land. The modern way is to let the nasties germinate then spray with glyphosate (eg Roundup) which kills them, and then sow your grass.


Not knowing what machinery, spraying facilities, friendly neighbourhood farmers you have at your disposal, I'm not sure which is best suited to you.


Assuming you have only a rotavator + pigs, I would move pigs onto next field for now and immediately rotavate to get rid of the clods and leave a relatively fine surface. If you don't break up the clods they'll stay on the surface and you'll keep tripping over them. If the weather stays mild then a lot of the weed seeds will then germinate so you could then put the pigs back on it for a few weeks to demolish the weed seedlings.
Or just keep rotavating throughout the winter as a new weed covering grows. Then hopefully by spring you should have got rid of most of the weeds ready for reseeding.