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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: charls on June 10, 2017, 10:09:23 pm

Title: Very sick ewe - staggers or something else?
Post by: charls on June 10, 2017, 10:09:23 pm
Hiya, found one of my old gals (lleyn x) very poorly this afternoon. Standing alone, drooling with green stuff coming out of her mouth, walking unsteadily and going in circles, and face and ears twitching. I suspected staggers and gave her a big dose of calcium/magnesium. This was a while ago now, and, whilst she's still standing she still seems very ill, still drooling and heavy breathing. Any ideas what the problem could be? I would have hoped to see a little recovery by now. She has two big lambs so I guess another possibility would be low calcium (though treatment is the same). Anyone seen this before? Thanks.
Title: Re: Very sick ewe - staggers or something else?
Post by: Anke on June 10, 2017, 10:21:16 pm
Listeriosis sounds likely from the symptoms you describe, especially the drooling and circling. However once they are this fay down it is very difficult to get them back. Huge doses of AB's (don't know which one though), and loads, I mean loads of tlc. How old is she and is it worth saving her? But I think this needs a vet.
Title: Re: Very sick ewe - staggers or something else?
Post by: landroverroy on June 10, 2017, 10:27:57 pm
Tetracycline is as good as anything for Listeria. (Also known as circling disease for obvious reasons.) The fact that she's still on her feet is slightly encouraging.If you can get some antibiotics into her tonight then she might have a chance.
Title: Re: Very sick ewe - staggers or something else?
Post by: charls on June 10, 2017, 10:32:01 pm
Thanks for the insight. I already gave her pen&strep a little while ago just in case. I considered listeriosis but she isn't drooping on one side? I hope she makes it through the night :fc:
Title: Re: Very sick ewe - staggers or something else?
Post by: landroverroy on June 10, 2017, 11:22:18 pm
They don't always droop on one side, but the circling and ear twitching is very characteristic.
If you're not seeing any improvement, I'd be tempted to give her another shot of strep pen to give her a large initial loading as the infection takes hold very fast in sheep.
Title: Re: Very sick ewe - staggers or something else?
Post by: Marches Farmer on June 11, 2017, 10:26:49 am
I think listeriosis most likely.  I'd consider consulting your vet as penstrep may not be the optimum a/b in this case.
Title: Re: Very sick ewe - staggers or something else?
Post by: landroverroy on June 11, 2017, 10:53:34 am
Pen strep is actually one of the antibiotics of choice.
I normally use LA tetracycline as I have it in. But PenStrep is meant to be slightly better.
Title: Re: Very sick ewe - staggers or something else?
Post by: farmers wife on June 11, 2017, 12:42:09 pm
disagree on Listeriosis. Think its a mineral/dietary symptoms.  http://www.nadis.org.uk/bulletins/nervous-disease-in-sheep.aspx#CCN (http://www.nadis.org.uk/bulletins/nervous-disease-in-sheep.aspx#CCN)


If the ewe has been like this for a few days then the damage has been done and little chance of recovery. If no recovery a couple of days then little chance of any recovery.
Title: Re: Very sick ewe - staggers or something else?
Post by: twizzel on June 11, 2017, 01:04:28 pm
Or instead of second guessing... ring the vet?  :innocent: if a sheep is that sick it needs a diagnosis asap and your vet is the best person to do this if you don't know what is wrong.
Title: Re: Very sick ewe - staggers or something else?
Post by: landroverroy on June 12, 2017, 12:56:55 pm
So - what was the end result Charis?