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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: desertmum on February 28, 2017, 07:46:23 pm

Title: shearing
Post by: desertmum on February 28, 2017, 07:46:23 pm
New to sheep.  We want to show two of ours at the beginning of June, just read somewhere that if showing that early they should be shorn end of the year.  Have we missed the boat?  And can we shear them now?  They will have shelter to go in.
Any advise welcomed.
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: bj_cardiff on March 01, 2017, 08:51:33 am
This leaflet might be useful. Basically you need to shear 6-8 weeks before lambing and the ewes will need to be housed (with no turnout) untill they've lambed.

https://businesswales.gov.wales/farmingconnect/sites/farming/files/112012-winter-shearing.pdf
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: Sbom on March 01, 2017, 09:14:47 am
You'd have to house them for up to six weeks, weather depending. Not sure about showing fleeces. A guy I worked for would shear in December and that was for showing purposes.
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: desertmum on March 01, 2017, 06:01:40 pm
thanks everyone - found a shearer who shears many show sheep and he says we are still in time - we are showing the sheep not the fleeces!  They will be in the sheep shelter to keep them warm.
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: harmony on March 01, 2017, 06:03:45 pm
What sort of sheep do you have?
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: desertmum on March 04, 2017, 08:00:31 am
thye are coloured Ryedales - great characters!
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: Marches Farmer on March 04, 2017, 09:06:35 am
Are these Ryelands?  Are they in lamb?
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: desertmum on March 04, 2017, 05:06:22 pm
They are coloured Ryelands, not in lamb - they are last years March lambs.  Hoping to put the in lamb this year
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: Marches Farmer on March 04, 2017, 07:50:27 pm
If you shear them now be aware they're still growing (albeit slowly) and if the weather turns cold it might be helpful to give them a little hard feed so they don't use too much energy keeping warm rather than growing.
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: desertmum on March 06, 2017, 02:39:18 pm
Will do.  I am worried about how cold they will as their wool is so think.   But they have a shelter with bedding so should be OK and if it gets really cold they will go into the polytunnel. 
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: bj_cardiff on March 06, 2017, 03:40:26 pm
If you shear this time of year you really shouldn't allow them access to outdoors, they should be in for 6 weeks. Sheep can be very stupid and if you give them the choice of shelter or freeze to death then you'd be amazed at how many will make the wrong choice! My shearer won't sheer mine in May because the nights are still too cold!
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: Marches Farmer on March 06, 2017, 04:10:05 pm
Mine, too.  Last year the Spring was so slow to kick in they didn't get done until July.
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: desertmum on March 07, 2017, 10:59:26 am
Gosh! Where do you all live that it's so cold you can't shear until July?  Our sheep (all four of them!) are next to the house in a large sheep shelter.  We have other animals and we are around most of the day to keep an eye on them, when it is warm and sunny like today they will get to go outside for a couple of hours.  They are well fed fat sheep - so not likely to freeze to death- inshallah!  They are show sheep so have to be sheared early.

Horses for courses.
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: harmony on March 07, 2017, 11:05:37 am
I worked in a t shirt yesterday but I still needed my coat last night  :eyelashes:
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: desertmum on March 07, 2017, 11:10:01 am
They will be inside at night and ALL DAY if it is cold.  They are not going to be sheared and chucked out on some wild and windy and cold mountain to fend for themselves!  We spend all day on our land with the horses and chickens and sheep and dogs - they are constantly checked on - they are an investment to us and also part of the famly. 

I get the concern, but feel you aren't reading what I am saying. 

Thanks for the input. 
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: bj_cardiff on March 07, 2017, 11:25:25 am
Don't mean to go on, but you do say that your new to sheep, so its hard to assess your knowledge base. When their shorn their clipped back to pretty much no fleece, so would be the same as you going outside naked. That might be fine on a nice day but overnight your likely to get hypothemia. If you have horses think of the sheep in the same way. I'm sure you wouldn't dream of turning a clipped horse out unrugged would you? Speak to your shearer, discuss what your planning to do and see what he says?
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: harmony on March 07, 2017, 11:29:40 am
New to sheep.  We want to show two of ours at the beginning of June, just read somewhere that if showing that early they should be shorn end of the year.  Have we missed the boat?  And can we shear them now?  They will have shelter to go in.
Any advise welcomed.


This was your question and people have answered you with their thoughts and experiences. In between there is a bit of humour. Don't take offence.  :)
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: desertmum on March 07, 2017, 11:48:17 am
Not taking offence and I understand the concern.  Was really asking about whether we had missed the boat re shearing for showing rather than the cold implications!  Our horses haven't been out for days due to the weather and the sheep will be the same.  I have even looked up sheep coats . .

Our shearer shows his sheep so will have a good chat with him today.  Thanks for the advise - we will keep them warm honest!

Title: Re: shearing
Post by: shep53 on March 07, 2017, 12:24:02 pm
Many rams for salei n the autumn are shorn in January and yes kept inside for a while or allowed in and out , ewe hoggs  for sale in the autumn are shorn in march and not kept inside .  You can use a snow comb that leaves a thin layer of wool
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: Lilljoho on March 07, 2017, 01:30:19 pm
Where are u? I'm looking for a show shearer
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: desertmum on March 07, 2017, 03:13:40 pm
I am in Suffolk - he has done a great job - sheep are fine, they have access to outdoors at the  moment - two are in two are out.

The shearer said they are in great condition - so will continue with the feeding schedule we have set up.

Not a great pic- but Wilma on the right is an after pic and Teddy on the right is a before.

Title: Re: shearing
Post by: Marches Farmer on March 07, 2017, 03:20:33 pm
Gosh! Where do you all live that it's so cold you can't shear until July?
On top of hill exposed to winds from East, North and West and not much between us and the Welsh Mountains.
Title: Re: shearing
Post by: desertmum on March 07, 2017, 03:30:22 pm
 :(  We are in Suffolk, wet but warm!   :raining:  Well, not overly cold . . . . . ;D