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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: twizzel on December 26, 2016, 09:30:44 pm

Title: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: twizzel on December 26, 2016, 09:30:44 pm
Our first ewe to lamb is due 3rd week of February so am looking at getting some Lifeline buckets in the next few weeks. We have a vitamin B deficiency in the fields they are grazing this year and the vet has advised they should have a lick with Vit B1 and 12 in at all times- and from what i can see Lifeline doesn't contain vit B- so would I be right in thinking I ought to buy a general sheep mineral lick to put out alongside the Lifeline bucket?
Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: Marches Farmer on December 27, 2016, 09:09:42 am
Does it have to be Lifeline?  Might be worth asking your local ag. merchants what they recommend.  Wynnstay stocks one specifically made to address the mineral deficiencies in this area, for instance.
Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: twizzel on December 27, 2016, 10:24:07 am
It seems to be either lifeline or Crystalyx red buckets here, or MVF own brand but they have the extra energy mvf at the moment and seem to be going through at a rate of knots. but everyone I've spoken to said to use Lifeline. Crystalyx doesn't have vit b in it either as I remember checking when I was at mvf last.
Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: shep53 on December 27, 2016, 12:51:03 pm
Are you talking B12 cobolt deficiency causing pine  and B1 thiamine deficiency causing  c c n
Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: twizzel on December 27, 2016, 01:24:58 pm
B1 deficiency causing CCN. The ewes will be vitamin drenched in 2 weeks but the vet advised a lick at all times containing it too. Thinking about blousing next year. So I guess in the run up to lambing they need a multi vit bucket and a lifeline bucket too?
Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: Foobar on December 27, 2016, 05:32:36 pm
They probably will ignore the mineral bucket if you have a lifeline or energy bucket out.  Cant you just continue to drench instead?  I'd bolus now if it were me.
Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: shep53 on December 27, 2016, 08:28:12 pm
JUST spent a fruitless half hour looking for mineral buckets or drenches containing b1 or thiamine , the best so far is OSMONDS OVIBOOST with 3000mg of thiamine
Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: Sbom on December 27, 2016, 09:35:34 pm
B1 deficiency causing CCN. The ewes will be vitamin drenched in 2 weeks but the vet advised a lick at all times containing it too. Thinking about blousing next year. So I guess in the run up to lambing they need a multi vit bucket and a lifeline bucket too?

Why not ask the vet which bucket he recommends? If he suggested it then surely he had one in mind??

I'd also ask about giving a bolus instead of drench

Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: twizzel on December 27, 2016, 09:49:39 pm
They just said anything that has B1 in it- nothing in particular. They had MVF feet and fertility at tupping and then went onto MVF extra energy, both of which have it in. They didnt need treating for CCN but the lambs grazing that field in October did, the vet just said to keep an eye on the ewes and give them a lick bucket. Will look into blousing thank you, they are being mineral drenched next week (will finish the bottle first before blousing and check out the drench named above, thank you)
Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: Backinwellies on December 28, 2016, 01:55:46 pm
blousing?  (a new term on me )
Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: Old Shep on December 28, 2016, 02:59:35 pm
blousing?  (a new term on me )


its better than getting shirty  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: twizzel on December 28, 2016, 04:32:47 pm
 :roflanim: bloody autocorrect on my phone!  ;D
Title: Re: Lifeline Buckets
Post by: shep53 on December 28, 2016, 06:07:22 pm
Boluses tend to be for COBOLT/SELENIUM/IODINE /COPPER , any one or all .   Since you are already feeding a lick with b1 in it why do you need to give them a mineral drench as well ?