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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: Jon Feather on November 22, 2016, 05:36:31 pm

Title: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: Jon Feather on November 22, 2016, 05:36:31 pm
I'm luck that I don't have to do this personally: a friendly farmers son, who has a small flock of his own, has offered to take mine when he takes his. He is a really nice guy, brought up on a farm and used to handling farm animals and I know he wouldn't do anything that wasn't good for the animals, but I'm a big softy and I'm stressing that they will be moved about too much and won't know what the hell is happening (if you know what I mean).
The plan is to collect my 2 on Saturday morning and house them at his before taking then to the abattoir on Sunday.  They will be killed on Monday before being hung and butched ready for collection the following Saturday.

What do you think?  I'd really appreciate your thoughts.
Title: Re: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: harmony on November 22, 2016, 05:56:23 pm
I'll leave the movement chain issue with you  :innocent:


Will the wethers cope - yes they will be fine. What do you want them to know - that they are going to be slaughtered?  :thinking:  Personally I would rather take my own straight there but sometimes I know we have to rely on other people for transport. I think you'll find you are more stressed than them!
Title: Re: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: twizzel on November 22, 2016, 06:18:22 pm
You would need to check with your farmer friend if that's ok- moving your lambs onto his holding will trigger a 6 day standstill so he can't move anything off his holding (unless direct to slaughter) for 6 days.
Title: Re: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: Womble on November 22, 2016, 06:32:01 pm
That sounds ideal. The only thing I'd say is could you stomach going with them, to see how it all works? That way you'll be prepared if you have to do it yourself next time.
Title: Re: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: Anke on November 22, 2016, 07:13:56 pm
Standstill doesn't apply if moving to slaughter, so should be fine. Sounds ideal to me, and no I wouldn't necessarily go with them.

The meat will be delicious!
Title: Re: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: Womble on November 22, 2016, 07:40:10 pm
I think Twizzel is right though Anke - if they move onto another farm, surely that will put that farm into standstill for 6 days?


AFAIK, the standstill exemption only applies for animals going direct to slaughter. So in other words your friend could put two of his own in with yours and take them all to the abbatoir together, but he couldn't for example sell lambs to another farm until the standstill period has expired.
Title: Re: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: twizzel on November 22, 2016, 08:26:38 pm
Standstill doesn't apply if moving to slaughter, so should be fine. Sounds ideal to me, and no I wouldn't necessarily go with them.

The meat will be delicious!

Nope sorry- it's fine for those specific lambs going to slaughter but puts the rest of his holding on a standstill I.e he can't move any stock to market or other holdings- only direct to slaughter. So that is something to ask him, he should know what his plans are for the following week.
Title: Re: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: Anke on November 22, 2016, 09:29:50 pm
I am sure the farmer friend will know how to handle transport documentation...
Title: Re: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: Foobar on November 23, 2016, 04:15:43 pm
Ask if you can go with him, and get him to show you the ropes.
Title: Re: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: pharnorth on November 23, 2016, 07:45:03 pm
As Foobar says. If you can go to with someone who appreciates your sensitivity it will demystify it for you which will help next time. Those of us not born and bred to it have all been through the first time at the abbatior angst. If you can't face it this time then your plan is a good one as it deals with the first issue, seeing them off, then you can save the next issue, unloading at the abbatior for next time. Now, several trips later I feel reconciled that I have taken care of my lambs throughout by taking them myself compared with say selling at market and not know their final destination
Title: Re: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: Marches Farmer on November 24, 2016, 09:18:11 am
I generally put sheep for the abattoir in the shed, back up the trailer to the gateway, let down the ramp and tie everything firmly in place so the sheep can't get out and leave it all overnight.  By morning they accept the trailer isn't a threat and I lead them up the ramp with a feed bucket.  This is particularly useful if the weather's bad in the morning as the sheep, the ramp and we are dry.
Title: Re: Sending wethers to the slaughter for the first time. Advice please.
Post by: Jon Feather on December 05, 2016, 06:21:55 pm
Thank you all. 
In the end it all went well (apart from the catching, which took both of us, 2 farmers, 2 farmers sons, a 4x4, 2 quads, a bucket of feed and an experienced sheepdog. Blooming shetlands!).   
We collected the meat from the abattoir and dropped them off at the customers the same day and I didn't feel too bad about it.