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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: wayfarer on October 09, 2016, 11:34:20 am

Title: ARAMS for abattoir tomorrow
Post by: wayfarer on October 09, 2016, 11:34:20 am
I have used the ARAMS forms before without an issue but am struggling today.  We are taking 3 sheep tomorrow to the abattoir but having completed the form and hit save, I can't get it to print and when I look at the movements record it doesn't appear to be there.  In the past I have taken a copy of the ARAMS form with me to the abattoir and they have signed it and given it back to me.  What can I do if I cannot get the form to print off?  Is there any other form online I could use?
Title: Re: ARAMS for abattoir tomorrow
Post by: nimbusllama on October 09, 2016, 12:10:40 pm
Can you not print off blank copies and fill in by hand, time consuming but at least it lets you take them?
Title: Re: ARAMS for abattoir tomorrow
Post by: pharnorth on October 09, 2016, 02:55:51 pm
I have had that before when there is a minor error filling the form in, it appears to save but doesn't. As previous reply, just print off the blanks and fill in by hand.
Title: Re: ARAMS for abattoir tomorrow
Post by: JedM on October 10, 2016, 02:42:59 pm
I presume you were able to print off a blank copy??

I have always had to print off the blank copy and fill it in manually.  Could anyone tell me how to do it online?  I have contacted ARAMS but they were quite unhelpful!
Title: Re: ARAMS for abattoir tomorrow
Post by: pharnorth on October 10, 2016, 04:48:31 pm
They probably don't understand it themselves!  It seems to have a couple of glitches in it and certainly is temperamental on how you fill in certain bits. I struggle to use it to do individual numbers so usually just give the flock number and number of animals which it seems to cope with. Make sure you get the haulier bit in right as it sits across the page so is not obvious and fill in the last page on status. Then with a bit of luck it might work. You can edit later if you spot an error but when I confused my goats for sheep it would not allow a retrospective change so let's hope any inspector thinks they are sheep too.
Title: Re: ARAMS for abattoir tomorrow
Post by: PK on October 10, 2016, 05:30:10 pm
I am never sure that the electronic form has been submitted when the submit button is pressed and have not been able to print it off the electronic form. I print off the PDF form available on the ARAMS site hand complete it by hand and photocopy it.
Title: Re: ARAMS for abattoir tomorrow
Post by: JedM on October 11, 2016, 09:58:20 am
Thanks, but my issue is that I can't find the online form!! I can only find the PDF format which is why I can't do it online.

I'm sure I've searched the whole site for the online version ???
Title: Re: ARAMS for abattoir tomorrow
Post by: pharnorth on October 11, 2016, 11:52:11 am
Ah. Ok!  Always useful to know where you are starting from when giving directions....

Arams.co.uk/movements.aspx

Will come up with Capita customer solutions page. Log- in

Once logged in go down to 'reporting your moves-via the Internet. And click next to Farmers.

Title: Re: ARAMS for abattoir tomorrow
Post by: JedM on October 11, 2016, 02:39:15 pm
 :excited: found it!!
thanks - not sure how I missed it!  I'll give it a go with the next move
Title: Re: ARAMS for abattoir tomorrow
Post by: DavidandCollette on October 12, 2016, 09:35:35 am
Just had the same problem with AML2 for pigs. They should have gone to the abbatoir Monday but the system wouldnt work. When i rang them Monday they had not entered my herd number on their database. All sorted for next Monday but the pigs thanked me by chewing a rear light off the trailer!