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Livestock => Cattle => Topic started by: Helen Wiltshire Horn on September 26, 2016, 12:58:00 pm

Title: Question about weaning at this time of year?
Post by: Helen Wiltshire Horn on September 26, 2016, 12:58:00 pm
Hi, I have two Dexter calves to wean.  One, is 9 months old and the other is 7 months old.  Both are well grown and the Mum of one is on the thin side (both cows are hopefully in calf again).  I have just separated the cows from the calves and have put the Mum's on poor grazing.  My question is how long should I leave them on poor grazing for, bearing in mind we have a bit of nice bit of September grass on a 2 acre paddock and I want them to make the most of it?  Also, I can't recall how long I need to keep Mums and calves separate for.  Your advice would be appreciated. 
Helen
Title: Re: Question about weaning at this time of year?
Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on September 26, 2016, 01:04:22 pm
When we seperate thewm its at 4 days old, but then we are dairy... We used yto seperate at 6-7 months old and then we would put the calves in a building away from mums for the winter, we always keep the youngstock out of the herd until they are big enough to be put in calf. The bond is never fully broken and they do remember each other. The thing some people use is if you put them back together say when they are much bigger and are ready to put in calf and say they are trying to suckle off mums, as they might, some farmers put spiked rings in their noses and this in turn is discomforting for the cow in question they are trying to suckle off so she will usually teach them a lesson. Not sure about this though? :-\ As to the grass wanting to make the most of it I don't really know, on the one hand you don't want them to start lactating again and on the other hand you want them nice and weighty for winter and to get the minerals before they disappear..... Hmmmmm :thinking:
Title: Re: Question about weaning at this time of year?
Post by: Buttermilk on September 26, 2016, 06:28:51 pm
Feed the grass to the calves and keep apart for two months.
Title: Re: Question about weaning at this time of year?
Post by: SallyintNorth on September 26, 2016, 10:00:38 pm
Having had mastitis in two of my dry cows this year, I would keep them on short pickings until the udder is well and truly collapsed.  Might take a month or longer, although with calves of those ages, hopefully not longer. 

And yes, normally one doesn't let them back together until after the cow has her next calf on her.  If you need them together, then I'd agree with Buttermilk, keep them apart for two months.
Title: Re: Question about weaning at this time of year?
Post by: shoveller on September 26, 2016, 10:44:24 pm
I usually wean at 9 months - I think 7 months is a bit young. They will all do well together on your good grass. The cows only need to be dry for 2 months before they calve again.
Title: Re: Question about weaning at this time of year?
Post by: twizzel on September 27, 2016, 10:33:24 am
I usually wean at 9 months - I think 7 months is a bit young. They will all do well together on your good grass. The cows only need to be dry for 2 months before they calve again.

If the calves are pulling the cows down then wean earlier and let them have time to recover especially seeing as we are going into winter. OH normally weans calves at 7-8 months depending on size and how the cow is fairing.
Title: Re: Question about weaning at this time of year?
Post by: Sbom on September 27, 2016, 02:21:30 pm
As others have said, put calves on good grass and keep cows on poorer pasture until their bags have shrunk considerably.
How in calf are the mothers?
Title: Re: Question about weaning at this time of year?
Post by: Helen Wiltshire Horn on September 27, 2016, 04:28:13 pm
Thanks for your replies.  Cows are due in February and early April.  I appreciate that one of the calves is on the young side but she is very well grown and her mother had a tendency to lose weight whilst feeding her calves which I am nervous about as I know how hard it is to put on condition during the winter months. 
Helen
Title: Re: Question about weaning at this time of year?
Post by: SallyintNorth on September 27, 2016, 09:33:29 pm
I spean the Jerseys' calves at 5 months if I want the milk for some thing else.  I cake the calves for a month or so, but they all do really well.