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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: mab on May 25, 2010, 07:59:34 pm

Title: Nail in hoof
Post by: mab on May 25, 2010, 07:59:34 pm
Another question for the sheep experts:-

One of my ewes managed to find a nail by stepping on it yesterday - ouch!

It was stuck in the inner side of the toe of a fore-hoof. When I pulled it out there was no blood and the hoof is otherwise in good condition.

Should it heal up ok by itself or should I get a vet to look at it?

She's putting weight on it now, but still limping quite noticeably.

mab
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: shetlandpaul on May 25, 2010, 10:38:34 pm
poor girl. i would be too. have you sprayed it with the antibiotic.
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: mab on May 26, 2010, 11:51:04 am
Yes, although it was the following morning when I got some - being my usual disorganised self, I didn't have any on hand.

mab
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: shetlandpaul on May 26, 2010, 12:25:21 pm
never mind you have some now. we had one which had an abcess a couple injections of antibiotics and pain killers and two weeks in the byre and she was better. if she is getting worse its what i would do.
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: Hellybee on May 26, 2010, 02:13:13 pm
I agree, get her jabbed, hope she sosund soon :)
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: Hermit on May 26, 2010, 02:22:50 pm
Puncture wounds can be really bad as the infection is sealed in deep as the flesh closes up on itself, especially from a rusty nail! .An antibiotic cover jab sounds in order.
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: shetlandpaul on May 26, 2010, 03:03:30 pm
that reminds me watch were your daughters leave tweezers one of mine left a pair sticking up on the settee its a good job ruth is a nurse they were well stuck in.
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: Hermit on May 26, 2010, 03:14:29 pm
 Stuck in what? :o  oops , Luckily my daughter keeps all her gear in her bedroom . You do get a shock though when a cat is under the cusions  :cat:
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: shetlandpaul on May 26, 2010, 04:44:04 pm
lets just say it was in a well padded area. it took a good pull to get it out.
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: mab on May 26, 2010, 10:00:38 pm
Ouch! re: the tweezers.

Back to the sheep: Thanks for the advice... but - if I might be argumentative for a moment - I was under the impression that one should avoid excessive use of antibiotics, so I had been thinking of only getting her a jab if it looked like there might be an infection. Do you think it's better to always get a jab anyway?

I checked her foot again today; there's no perceptible swelling and it isn't hot... yet.

mab
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: shetlandpaul on May 27, 2010, 07:35:14 am
prevention is better than the cure. think what a&e if it was you. you would get it washed out a tet jab and some antibiotic tabs. your choice they are your animals. ask yourself how long it was in there and what has it walked through. i would give her a jab for her sake.
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: dixie on May 27, 2010, 10:02:57 am
The sheep farmer I know wouldnt  do anything unless there was a problem, then he'd give antibiotic. Personally I would give an antibiotic shot just in case. I keep it in the fridge ready ;)
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: kanisha on May 27, 2010, 10:48:37 am
if you can clean a wound out then often antibiotic cover is not necessary but a deep wound that quickly closes over it likely to be a big problem before its noticed and a shot of antibiotic as a preventative is (IMO) worthwhile
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: Hellybee on May 27, 2010, 10:56:13 am
Yes, best to treat from the inside out, plus the ab spray :)
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: Fleecewife on May 27, 2010, 11:41:42 am
I agree that an AntiB injection is warranted here.  I would have phoned my vet to ask which one would be most appropriate.  A deep penetrating wound is dangerous - trouble might not become evident for quite a while.  The advice not to use AntiBs unneccessarily applies to actions such as routinely giving watery mouth mix to all newborn lambs whether they need it or not - and for most of us, especially if we lamb outdoors, it's not.
The problem which arises from overuse of AntiBs is resistance - if animals build up resistance to the drug, or the particular bugs build up resistance to the AntiBs, then there would be nothing left which would be active when we have a genuine need for them, as in this case.  Also there is a difference between giving AntiBs to breeding stock and to meat animals, from the human consumption viewpoint, which might make you think twice, but still the animals welfare has to come first.  Nowadays we all have a duty of care towards all our livestock and this little animal should get its shot.
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: mab on May 27, 2010, 11:59:56 am
prevention is better than the cure. think what a&e if it was you. you would get it washed out a tet jab and some antibiotic tabs. your choice they are your animals. ask yourself how long it was in there and what has it walked through. i would give her a jab for her sake.

Can't remember the last time I went to a&e for an injury - though I probably should've done for at least two according to a nurse I know.  :D

I don't think it was in there for very long - 1 hour at the most - though it probably seemed long enough to her, and the weather here's been dry for a month so there's no mud. I was thinking that as it didn't bleed the nail hadn't penetrated deep enough to cause trouble.

Point taken though - prevention IS better than cure; and I didn't write this post only to ignore the wisdom of majority so...

...Personally I would give an antibiotic shot just in case. I keep it in the fridge ready ;)

That prompts a cheapskates question: Where do I buy them from? the vet??
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: shetlandpaul on May 27, 2010, 12:14:40 pm
yup ours will supply a drawn up messure. we are very lucky with our vets up here they are very helpful. and very reasonable too.
Title: Re: Nail in hoof
Post by: woollyval on May 27, 2010, 05:42:24 pm
puncture wounds can = tetanus risk.....be aware!