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Livestock => Cattle => Topic started by: Bramham Wiltshire Horns on August 22, 2016, 10:47:02 am

Title: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: Bramham Wiltshire Horns on August 22, 2016, 10:47:02 am
Was reading an article on Lowline Angus for smallholders

What's anyone's thoughts

Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: Rosemary on August 22, 2016, 11:17:06 am
Depends on the price  :innocent:
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: Bramham Wiltshire Horns on August 22, 2016, 11:51:01 am
Ye get the feeling they could be expensive
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: Rosemary on August 22, 2016, 12:42:54 pm
I was more wondering if this was a bit like Valais Blacknose and alpacas - a bit of pyramid selling. :sofa:
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: Bramham Wiltshire Horns on August 22, 2016, 01:00:27 pm
Ye maybe

I just like to research for when my time comes
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: Buttermilk on August 22, 2016, 07:39:21 pm
My neighbour has them.  5 bull calves on the trot if anyone wants one, he will sell them reasonably cheap.  https://www.facebook.com/PBLowlines/?ref=py_c (https://www.facebook.com/PBLowlines/?ref=py_c)
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: Rosemary on August 22, 2016, 08:21:19 pm
I'd like to see them in the flesh - tried to get them to the Festival, but there's noone in Scotland got them
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on August 22, 2016, 08:58:55 pm
Yep I have heard of these animals, I think. Are they essentially a minature aberdeen angus? I think they were developed in America for beef breeders, or was it Australia? Not sure TBH!
Here we are.....
http://wessexlowlines.com/ (http://wessexlowlines.com/)
I mean I like them, but imagine if they turned on you it would be more difficult to get out the way, at least with traditional you know where you are. Anyway whats wrong with the traditional breed?
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: Rosemary on August 23, 2016, 08:42:19 am
I mean I like them, but imagine if they turned on you it would be more difficult to get out the way,

Not quite sure I follow this train of thought? ???

They are essentially miniature AA, developed in Australia.
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on August 23, 2016, 11:31:43 am
Sorry I will phrase that a bit better :-[ Because they are a smaller breed than the traditional AA, it could be more difficult to get out of the way if one of them decided they would lke to have a go at you. At least with the traditional AA you know where you are. However it really depends on the temperament, I know the traditional AA can be rather temperamental creatures, especially the bulls, with this breeding would they have bred them to be more placid animals and would the meat be any better? I know Traditional AA meat is just lovely :)
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: SallyintNorth on August 23, 2016, 11:58:16 am
We find Angus to be one of the most placid breeds, and the bulls to be real gentlemen. 

If Traditional Angus beasts are other than placid, I would sincerely hope they would be culled and not used for breeding.  Placidity is one of the breed attributes, surely?
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: Buttermilk on August 23, 2016, 01:28:03 pm
No problems with the neighbours cattle regarding temperament.
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: Rosemary on August 23, 2016, 02:02:03 pm
Aye, and they only hae wee short legs, so jist run away as quick as ye can  ;D
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: landroverroy on August 23, 2016, 06:43:36 pm
 Being of a cynical disposition, I think you would have difficulty distinguishing between an Angus crossed with a short legged Dexter and a  "lowline" animal.  And if you just fancied some small cattle then this would be a much cheaper way of getting them.

So in a similar vein - I've had some very attractive looking "lowline" highland cattle, and we had a perfectly formed "lowline" hereford heifer. (In case you hadn't noticed, I also keep pure bred highlands, herefords , and dexters, and sometimes they mingle amongst themselves. ....)
Title: Re: Lowline cattle (Angus)
Post by: Cowgirl on August 27, 2016, 01:16:08 pm
I think that the Lowline Angus was developed in Australia and USA from original population Native Angus originally exported from Scotland. My feeling is that if anyone was interested in them they should consider our own Original Population Native Angus as it is a RBST recognised rare breed, rather than an exported and reimported Angus! Look at "Dunlouise Angus"'s website and Facebook page for Scotland and there are quite a few in England but they were critically endangered for a while. I have not heard of temperament issues but I doubt if they would be as placid as a Hereford.