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Title: Did anyone listen to the news at all?
Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on August 21, 2016, 02:08:29 pm
How sad and depressing the news has been, it always generally is but this time it was terrible. 2 Families have been killed in the sea, the first family it was the dad which has been killed by being swept out, in cornwall, and the daughter they say is in a stable condition. I heard another family, although never heard of the place where it was, his dad and younger sibling where swept out to sea and him and his mother went in to rescue them, apparently only the 13 year old lad which went in to rescue them with his mum was rescued, the rest of the family drowned. I can't tell you how upset I was when I heard this news, the poor lad, I kept thinking how would he cope with seeing his family killed in front of his eyes whist he couldn't save them. Sorry guys I am tearing up here :'(
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Post by: in the hills on August 21, 2016, 03:34:19 pm
Yes, so sad, Wbf.

And two teenage lads lost at Barmouth beach only a couple of weeks ago.    :'(
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Post by: sabrina on August 21, 2016, 03:44:44 pm
A mother and her son killed in the sea at Aberdeen yesterday. Terrible.
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Post by: Penninehillbilly on August 21, 2016, 08:02:06 pm
Yes, we commented to each other about it as well, so sad.
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Post by: doganjo on August 21, 2016, 11:04:18 pm
The police commended her other son, Samuel, who had gone to the aid of his mother and little brother, and two passers by who also tried to help.

Heartbreaking story, Aberdeen Beach looked so different to when i was a child 60 or so years ago.  Where did all those rocks come from?  I remember it even as an adult as flat sand all the way along.  Perhaps the wee lad had gone to the end of one of those outcrops to look for crabs etc, they looked like they went out quite far, and into deeper water where a big wave would be difficult to avoid.  So sad. :'(
Title: Re: Did anyone listen to the news at all?
Post by: Fleecewife on August 21, 2016, 11:51:57 pm
I find it sad because of the total waste of human lives.  People seem to ignore the advice of coast guards and the weather forecast.  Some people just don't think how powerful big waves are, they haven't noticed there are tides and waves of different sizes, so they get washed off rocks, or caught in rips or overestimate their swimming ability in the ocean.
As with mountain rescue teams, each time the coast guard have to rescue someone, they are risking their own lives, which they do willingly.  However, when the people needing rescued have been wilfully careless of their own or their children's lives, that must be heartbreaking for everyone concerned.
I'm not saying all those who have drowned have been careless, just that some have with enormously tragic results.
Maybe we need more education about the dangers of water.
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Post by: doganjo on August 22, 2016, 11:37:39 am
I find it sad because of the total waste of human lives.  People seem to ignore the advice of coast guards and the weather forecast.  Some people just don't think how powerful big waves are, they haven't noticed there are tides and waves of different sizes, so they get washed off rocks, or caught in rips or overestimate their swimming ability in the ocean.
As with mountain rescue teams, each time the coast guard have to rescue someone, they are risking their own lives, which they do willingly.  However, when the people needing rescued have been wilfully careless of their own or their children's lives, that must be heartbreaking for everyone concerned.
I'm not saying all those who have drowned have been careless, just that some have with enormously tragic results.
Maybe we need more education about the dangers of water.
Sorry to disagree. As regards Mountain rescue, sometimes they are needed despite the expertise of the  person being rescued.  My husband was a mountain leader.  H was climbing on Lochnagar with the Cairngorm climbing club when a snow cornice fell off and threw him down a bare gully.  Not his fault, he was well prepared, well equipped.  Accidents happen.
As to Aberdeen beach - as I said I remember it as flat - a very safe beach, where those rocks came from i have no idea but to me that could be an attraction for children and for them to be at risk.  So sometimes it is just an accident.
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Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 23, 2016, 12:37:40 am
Agreed, Annie but then again, I read today of a woman who was rescued by the life boat after being cut off by the tide, THREE times in FOUR days at the same place. She was eventually taken to the coastguard station and given a telling off.
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Post by: Penninehillbilly on August 23, 2016, 01:23:19 am
MGM I heard that news as well, now that IS foolish, and a waste of precious time and money. I think the phrase was something like a 'comprehensive training on safety' (or something similar :-), )
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Post by: Buttermilk on August 23, 2016, 07:10:14 am
Perhaps an invoice for the third time would be viable in such circumstances.
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Post by: devonlady on August 23, 2016, 07:56:58 am
Agreed, Annie but then again, I read today of a woman who was rescued by the life boat after being cut off by the tide, THREE times in FOUR days at the same place. She was eventually taken to the coastguard station and given a telling off.

Perhaps she fancied the lifeboatman! People do not know the force of large wave, some think it will break harmlessly over them and be a bit of fun. I know this as I was crew of the Cadgwith inshore lifeboat many years ago and have seen people take huge risks.
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Post by: doganjo on August 23, 2016, 10:39:33 am
Perhaps an invoice for the third time would be viable in such circumstances.
I totally agree with this. And also mountain rescue - once can be an accident - as it was with John, but had he survived and had to be rescued again I would have expected a huge bill. As it was we raised over £2000 for  the Cairngorm team.
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Post by: SallyintNorth on August 23, 2016, 12:04:37 pm
I was already thinking that it sounds as though she was doing it on purpose, and that she perhaps was getting a thrill out of being rescued by the burly rescuers.

MGM I heard that news as well, now that IS foolish, and a waste of precious time and money. I think the phrase was something like a 'comprehensive training on safety' (or something similar :-), )

A proper good spanking, perhaps?   :innocent:


Sorry, feel free to delete if I've crossed the line...  Where's that horny little :devil: emotiwotsit it gone?
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Post by: Jukes Mum on August 23, 2016, 12:53:06 pm
Careful Sally, don't be giving us ideas- we'll all want rescuing  ;D
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Post by: devonlady on August 23, 2016, 01:00:38 pm
I've seen a few teen-age girls (holiday makers, we would have had an assing!) climb the cliffs and get "stuck" in the hope of being rescued by a handsome coastguard or, better still, the helicopter.