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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: Fleecewife on July 31, 2016, 09:08:15 am

Title: rosebay willowherb
Post by: Fleecewife on July 31, 2016, 09:08:15 am
Does anyone know if rosebay willowherb is ok for sheep to eat?  I have a customer who has quite a lot of this plant in her pasture, and was warned that goats can bloat on it if they eat too much.
I have absolutely no idea, as we don't have any in our pastures (just in the garden ) so my sheep have never eaten any.
Any ideas?
Title: Re: rosebay willowherb
Post by: Marches Farmer on July 31, 2016, 09:34:55 am
It's not on the list of dangerous plants.  Could it be cut down, collected and burned?  It won't regrow at this time of year.  One rosebay willowherb seeding will lead to hundreds the next year.
Title: Re: rosebay willowherb
Post by: kanisha on July 31, 2016, 09:38:53 am
Mine eat in  it without any problems . I would suggest if animals are bloating its because they re gorging on it ( lush pasture) rather than anything to do with  toxicity of the plant. My solution would be to allow limited access to grazing to allow them to graze it down without pigging out.
Title: Re: rosebay willowherb
Post by: Anke on July 31, 2016, 10:03:43 am
It is one of the best browsings for goats, and my goats get bunches of it every day. I am sure sheep would love it too, especially the traditional breeds. I would start them on it slowly though if they are not used to it.

Some goatkeepers dry bunches of willowherb for winter use, the goats love to crunch on the dried leaves.
Title: Re: rosebay willowherb
Post by: SallyintNorth on July 31, 2016, 12:41:13 pm
I'm glad you said that, Anke, because I was sure I'd heard of someone making hay / forage of rosebay willowherb.  We don't have it in our pastures, either, though, so I've no personal experience to pass on.
Title: Re: rosebay willowherb
Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on July 31, 2016, 03:09:05 pm
I have loads of it too, sheep won't touch it. Bees love it and it makes an attractive addition to the lane.  Here is some info on it..... Good pollen source for bees! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamerion_angustifolium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamerion_angustifolium)
http://www.wildlifetrusts.org/species/rosebay-willowherb (http://www.wildlifetrusts.org/species/rosebay-willowherb)
Title: Re: rosebay willowherb
Post by: Fleecewife on July 31, 2016, 11:39:29 pm
Thank you everyone for your replies - that's great information, which I'll pass on to the lady.
Title: Re: rosebay willowherb
Post by: regen on August 01, 2016, 07:06:26 am
Had about an acre pf the stuff spread over about 10 acres in two large patches It was increasing year on year. Sheep not very interested in mature plants but the Badger sheep have been in there since Spring and there are no mature plants showing so they must keep it down like they do with brambles.

Regen
Title: Re: rosebay willowherb
Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on August 01, 2016, 09:22:25 am
[member=4333]Fleecewife[/member] I would make absoloutely sure that it is rosebay willowherb before doing anything :)
Title: Re: rosebay willowherb
Post by: Coximus on August 03, 2016, 09:40:50 am
I rent an 11ac field with 6 acres of it... former horse land so pretty messed.
The sheep didnt let it get going till july when the grass really overtook, they eat the soft bits but wont touch the woody phase of growth.
Title: Re: rosebay willowherb
Post by: Hellybee on August 03, 2016, 02:09:01 pm
Or Old Mans Beard.  Saw a lot of it in south Wales, rarely wound here, but have recently seen in on the corner of one field, I hazard a guess it's taken after getting in tire treads as people park up there. 


The main trouble maker round here has been himalyan balsam, a big effort has been made to stop it invading further  on to the headland.  And a big avenue cleared, cut back hard. 
Title: Re: rosebay willowherb
Post by: Penninehillbilly on August 03, 2016, 02:59:33 pm
My goats get free access to some large patches of RWH, but will eat some, wander round eating other stuff then back to WH. Never had a problem with bloat. Looking round neighbouring fields (sheep), i can't see WH anywhere, but plenty on the lane sides.
Himalayas Balsam is a problem round here as well, the frustrating thing is, the advice says don't pull it once it starts to set seed. RUBBUSH! Why let the other 99% of seed develop?
I leave it as long as I can so the bees can have some, then cut it down, don't pull, esp on soft slopes, that only destabilizes the soil. I've reduced the area to manageable amounts, but neighbouring land (sheep) is full of it.