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Smallholding => Crofting => Topic started by: Treudnamara on July 04, 2016, 11:28:51 am

Title: Deer problems
Post by: Treudnamara on July 04, 2016, 11:28:51 am
A couple of deer seem to be wanting to eat all our fairly young trees. Many have tree guards or are in exclosures but the larch for instance are very vulnerable. Any suggestions apart from deer fencing around our entire perimeter, which is currently unaffordable ?
Title: Re: Deer problems
Post by: SallyintNorth on July 04, 2016, 12:16:43 pm
I knew someone used to get lion poo from Longleat and hang bags of it off the fencing around her young orchard - she reckoned it did work.  Whether the deer became habituated to it, and started to come back, I don't know - I moved away and didn't keep in contact.

Otherwise, can you have a dog that can roam around the area?
Title: Re: Deer problems
Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on July 04, 2016, 01:27:27 pm
alternatively you could set up a venison business :innocent:
Title: Re: Deer problems
Post by: NethertonSH on July 04, 2016, 02:28:30 pm
Where are you based? I'm sure there would be someone close by more than willing to take care of them for you. Providing they're in season of course.
Title: Re: Deer problems
Post by: NethertonSH on July 13, 2016, 10:01:59 pm
Hmm can't agree with that one I'm afraid. I know they'll be half joking but seasons are there for a reason.
Title: Re: Deer problems
Post by: Steph Hen on July 14, 2016, 08:02:05 am
I think if deer are causing damage there is an exception clause that says that those marauding deer can be shot in any season - look it up, if it's just one or two damaging your trees then I think a pest controller is allowed to shoot them.
Title: Re: Deer problems
Post by: Penninehillbilly on July 14, 2016, 10:51:00 am
I'd hate the thought of having shot a hind and her youngster dying of starvation :-(.
Different laws in Scotland, Google 'deer cull season'. Some useful advice.
Title: Re: Deer problems
Post by: NethertonSH on July 14, 2016, 01:37:07 pm
I think if deer are causing damage there is an exception clause that says that those marauding deer can be shot in any season - look it up, if it's just one or two damaging your trees then I think a pest controller is allowed to shoot them.
To shoot deer out of season (in Scotland) you need authorisation from SNH. You can get an out of season licence to shoot stags easy enough but you would very rarely (if ever) be given authorisation to shoot females out of season due to the welfare issues. To get out an out of season licence you have to show that you have tried everything else possible to control the deer during the open season. A night shooting authorisation (in season) would be more common place in controlling numbers first. 

But to be honest a couple marauding (roe?) deer isn't a deer problem. Try managing a 1000 acres of newly planted commercial woodland that is unfenced and has large herds of red and sika moving through daily.   
Title: Re: Deer problems
Post by: oor wullie on July 19, 2016, 12:03:51 pm
I am pretty sure that you don't need to actually apply for a license to shoot males out if season as it is covered by the SNH general license, although as stated you have to exhaust other options first.
There is a short period out if season where the general license covers females too but for the key part of the breeding season they are strictly off limits.

A couple of roe might not make an impact on a thousand acres but they can decimate a small area.
Title: Re: Deer problems
Post by: Womble on July 19, 2016, 12:45:58 pm
How about running some electric tape around them. I'm sure the deer would soon learn?