The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: waterbuffalofarmer on June 20, 2016, 04:29:13 pm
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I got the hatching eggs last week and put them under the broody, they have been under her for 9 days now and she hasn't kicked any out at all, so thats a good sign, I'm hoping. Trying not to disturb her too much, but I lift her off once a day to eat and drink and she has water nearby which she can drink if she likes. She has kept the nest clean, so another good sign, all in all I am sort of confident that it will go well, but there is a part of me it won't, possibly because of what happened last time, but we can't give up because of one bad experience (at least that is what I keep telling myself) :) How is everyone elses hatching eggs doing?
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You have to try to forget about them, but I know it's not easy :excited:
I've have mixed results so far, first batch 2 broodies gave up after a week / 10 days, luckily I had half the eggs in the Incy & got 1 broody to adopt them, so that went well.
Had 30 eggs in the Incy, candled them 10 days ago, now I'm left with 9 !
They are due Thursday so fingers crossed, got chicks coming Saturday so that's a lot easier :excited:
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I've had a bit of a disastrous hatching year so far to be honest! First hatch was 8 chicken eggs in my brinsea mini eco, one chick hatched, 5 more were dead in shell. Then bought 6 duck eggs from south, half started but my husband knocked the inncy off the side... bought another 8 duck eggs from south, three hatched, one died within an hour... I've concluded that storing my incubator in the byre over winter wasn't the best thing for it, I don't think it's holding temp and humidity as it should.
I don't have fertile duck eggs but had a broody duck so gave her hens eggs - big mistake, there's a reason duck egg shells are tougher than hens! Managed to save a chick and pipped egg before she stood and smashed them all! Luckily had a broody hen who had same age eggs so she took the ducks. Whew! Better luck next time!
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My brown runner x Aylesbury duck that I posted about a while back hatched 13 ducklings on Sunday night. So proud of her, she's a fantastic mum and kept them all warm. We had to help her last duckling hatch as he had gotten cold and tired so brought him in and he hatched last night, fluffed up over night on a heat pad and put him back with her this morning. Really pleased :)
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I got carried away and have 44 eggs in 2 incubators candled them and 40 were fertile. Have 1 week left til hatch day but the eggs which I am manually turning are definitely getting some weight to them :fc:
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When do the eggs start getting weighty with chicks then? This is something I have wondered at for some time, say 10 days since being put under, how big will the chicks be?
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I don't usually have a problem but things have dived first I bet on £100 on the way back from lambing in Stafford pict up a load of eggs got about 25 disaster. Next 50 terkis 1.50 each got 1 disaster 2 next 2 lots of 2 doz and £60 each 2 hatched. I have the best kit so who's folt. I never complain as its me that took the chance. So what next I judged a show 3 weeks ago and all the eggs were left on the table to throw out so I took them home and all but one fertile. So I might make it.
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Ah well it is hatching day, nothing so far. Am just a bit worried that what happened last time will happen again. For those who would like to know what happened last time then I will tell you..... Once upon a time..... No seriously :roflanim: she sat for over 21 days half of them non fertile and one of the eggs hatched and got taken. the others i opened em up and the tweeted high pitched and I ended up killing em accidentally, the middle not ends. It was a very traumatic time and it put me off eggs for months and months. The hen I got rid of. I managed to pluck up courage and try again, I am so nervous now..... roughly how many days should it be till am worried?
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When did you count the 21 days from?
From when she first sat - or from when she was sitting all the time with few breaks?
Don't touch them, the worst that can happen is that she breaks a non fertile one and you'll know by the smell. She might even turf them out once they start to pip - so leave her alone!!!
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counted from when she first sat. I checked her just before as I do before bed and she had her head cocked around listening and clucking a bit so maybe they have started. I picked em up last week only slightly and they were all heavy so heres hoping they hatch ok. I will check her tomoz to feed her but not lift her as she does it herself, but will be interesting to see..... I will leave her be though.
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I'm on tenter hooks waiting to see if they've hatched now :excited:
Much as I'd love to hatch eggs, I'm far to soft to cull the boys lol.
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Some of our larger breeds have taken an extra day or so beyond the 21 days to hatch so don't be too hasty WBF.Mum knows best!
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Even if they do hatch on Day 21 they'll generally stay under Mama for a day or so, living off the yolk and waiting for stragglers to arrive. I don't generally expect to see brooded chicks out and about until Day 23 or so.
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:relief:checked her this morn to feed her she never got up so I gave her food when sitting as I dont want to disturb. Still nothing happening but patience is key..... this is nerve wreaking :tired: only times i am checking her are morn and evening i dont lift her since yesterday. Is that ok?
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That should be fine. As MF says they often stay under mum for the first day or so anyway ..... often not appearing until all the viable eggs have hatched and everyone is dry and fluffy.
My daughter can never resist the temptation and lifts ours slightly for a peek and to check what's going on. I think they are probably best left alone but it depends on your hen. Ours are very tame as we usually use the pekins to sit and they are experienced mum's and not easily disturbed or alarmed.Think the danger is that some can become unsettled and turn on the chicks.
Have you popped a shallow dish of chick crumbs in. Mum can eat these now and until the chicks leave her. Water in a very shallow container ....you could put some clean stones in or in a special chick hopper. They can drown easily when very small.
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Thanks for that [member=24384]in the hills[/member] I am going to check on her in a bit before bed just to see. She only has corn atm I will get chick crumbs tomoz!
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Any news WBF?
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sadly nothing, no sounds or movement. I read just brfore online that if you gently tap the eggs near the bubble they should peep, but if not thrn probsbly dead. I am going to try that later, is it wise?
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Well, I think you can usually hear the chicks cheeping so wouldn't worry about tapping the eggs ..... just in case you break one! We can often hear them even while the eggs are under mum and definitely if you hold the eggs near to your ear. If thee are no signs that any have started to pip I would just leave them alone for a while longer.
Fingers crossed. :fc:
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I JUST DID IT JUST NOW VERY LIGHTLY, NO SOUNDS AT ALL AND THEY FEEL LIGHTER, I THINK ITS A DISASTER AGAIN GUYS! :'(
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How many days now?
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23 so far, I will give it 1 more day, if nothing then end of tomoz I am going to break them open, with care, and see what is wrong. I was seriously thinking of giving up ever doing this again, but next time I buy hatching eggs I will pick them up myself and not send for them via the post, as they can throw stuff around. The last time it was the hens fault, inexperienced, now I feel it is my fault, but I don't know for sure. I rested them for 24 hrs, should it have been longer?
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Sorry to hear this. :(
Hatching eggs are notoriously bad. A 24hr settling period is ample; it's mainly just to try and get the air sacs to reattach. But I've had bad luck with postal eggs. My last batch ended with one fertile, and then it died Day 18. Not only do they get thrown about, but I think micro-fractures can occur on egg too which helps bacterial infection (IMO).
I started my entire flock with hatching eggs and it took AGES as I'd only get 3/4 per batch maximum. As a novice, I then shoved 16 eggs down from my own birds and, you guessed it, got 16 chicks. I'd definitely recommend picking them up if you can - the one time I did this I had a MUCH better hatch.
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I'd give them a couple more days ...... can't hurt anything.
Some of our larger breed hens have taken a day or two longer than expected .Better safe than sorry.
I'm sure you haven't done anything wrong. Bit of a gamble when buying in eggs I suspect.
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I had to get her off the nest, hats off to her she is brilliant but it sadly wasnt mean't to be. I did the water test, 4 past it. I then decided to see why, so I broke them open. The first exploded and it looked like it hadnt made it past embryo stage. The second one was just brown mush, the third was infertile as were the rest. Well we live and learn I suppose but never again will I order by post. :'(
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That's a shame, must be so disappointing
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Ahhh, sorry WBF.
You could try to get some day olds to pop under her?
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I tried to source some but noone has any and those who do are too far away. I think next year I will just be a bit more careful who I get them from and pick them up myself. The best thing is really to have your own cockerel. Can you get warren covkerels or are they a mixed breed?
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Not good I have 2 incubators one is for people like you're self. Collect eggs and always get 6 more. Candle 7 days you then have the number. 4 days to go check again now let them dry and drink 24 houres later put under hen. Next day get her of and let nature take its course. And remember they can still chill as it's still cold. Other method get a breeder to sell you day old or sext chicks. Don't let it get you dawn you are not alone. 50 terki eggs 2 weeks ago order for terkis 1 hatched 1.50 a egg. So a complete disaster and now more eggs. Even if you no you're stuff it's luck. Have a nice day.
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Oh WBF I'm so sorry to hear that. Do you have a.candler to check them earlier on next time?
Dans
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Oh WBF I'm so sorry to hear that. Do you have a.candler to check them earlier on next time?
Dans
No sadly not, but I will try and get one. The lady said she candles her eggs, but am not sure whether to trust a breeder again who says that. How much are they?
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It's not perfect and I'm sure that a proper candler is best but my daughter candles our eggs using a strong torch shining through the egg. Either holds them in a box to do it or takes the eggs into the trailer, dark room etc.
She is better at understanding what's going on than I am and can see enough to say that the eggs are viable. Veins developing in the egg, chick moving etc.
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In terms of a candler...I actually use my iPhone. If you've got a smartphone with a torch setting (or download an app) just take egg to a darkish place. Works a treat.
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Will do [member=160088]BrimwoodFarm[/member] my brother has a huawei so should work in the future. Thanks for all the help/advice and support guys, I really appreciate it. This is what I love about this forum :)