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Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: Hevxxx99 on May 17, 2016, 08:20:12 am

Title: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Hevxxx99 on May 17, 2016, 08:20:12 am
Asking on behalf of a friend who wants to get a couple.

Presumably you can milk them, but is it worth it? What sort of yeild would you expect?
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Anke on May 17, 2016, 09:25:11 am
If you fancy milking a cupful while flat on the ground... or indeed have a high milking stand... unlikely to be worth it.

If you want household quantities of milk (as in a couple of litres per day) Guernseys would be the best.
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: verdifish on May 17, 2016, 11:28:54 am
I think technicaly British saanans are milkier. 
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Hevxxx99 on May 17, 2016, 12:54:49 pm
 :roflanim: It sounds as though a cat may be milkier than a pygmy goat.

Personally, I'd get Anglo-Nubians given a choice, but it's not for me.  This friend wants goats and has set her heart on Pygmies, presumably because they are little and cute. I didn't think they'd be very practical to milk, but I'm not a goat person  (yet: watch this space - I've just discovered homemade goat's cheese  :yum:) so thought I'd better check. She's vegetarian, so the meat angle isn't relevant to her.

A cup of milk may be enough I guess and she's quite small so wouldn't have to bend too far.  ;)

I'll pass it on. Thanks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Penninehillbilly on May 17, 2016, 01:12:55 pm

A cup of milk may be enough I guess and she's quite small so wouldn't have to bend too far.  ;)
;D

I've been hearing of pygmy crosses that look cute and give a bit of milk?
For pets i go for Toggs, love being brushed and look good  :)
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Hevxxx99 on May 17, 2016, 07:48:34 pm
...and give a reasonable amount of milk, I believe!

I'll suggest it, but I think her heart is set on wee cute ones.
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Beeducked on May 17, 2016, 07:55:53 pm
A lot of American literature talks about Nigerian dwarf goats. They are small like pygmies but are milky (not like Saanens or ANs but very rich milk). There are a couple of British breeders if you look, I don't know how reputable they are and if they are actually any different from pygmies!

Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Jullienne on May 17, 2016, 09:07:57 pm
I knew someone who kept a boer nanny and her bag was massive, she reared her twins till they where huge, would that also be another option? Just a thought.
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Hevxxx99 on May 17, 2016, 10:20:42 pm
I think she wants little and cute.  Boers are fairly big aren't they?

The little Nigerian ones might interest her: I'll pass that on.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Old Shep on May 17, 2016, 10:41:30 pm
No expert but didn't think Pygmies would have milk unless they'd just given birth?  Whereas other breeds wiil keep milking a lot longer.
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Dogwalker on May 18, 2016, 05:57:54 am
How about dairy x angora,
small, usable fleeces and some milk.
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Sbom on May 18, 2016, 08:39:27 am
I think I'd be slightly concerned about someone who is basing their livestock choice on 'little and cute'.......

I presume they know enough about the care and welfare of livestock, not to mention legal requirements etc?



Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Hevxxx99 on May 18, 2016, 12:55:50 pm
No worries.  :thumbsup:

They live on a farm with 600 hill ewes and followers, so obviously have a CPH number and know the regs. And she is also a relief milker for a commercial dairy herd elsewhere.  The goats are just as pets as she's always had a soft spot for them.

For my own information: you presumably need a different flock number for goats if you keep sheep?
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Anke on May 18, 2016, 01:07:29 pm
For my own information: you presumably need a different flock number for goats if you keep sheep?

I have just one for both, but I think it may depend on your local office. I have heard of people having a different number each for sheep and goats.
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Sbom on May 18, 2016, 02:05:11 pm
No worries.  :thumbsup:

They live on a farm with 600 hill ewes and followers, so obviously have a CPH number and know the regs. And she is also a relief milker for a commercial dairy herd elsewhere.  The goats are just as pets as she's always had a soft spot for them.

For my own information: you presumably need a different flock number for goats if you keep sheep?

All good then  :thumbsup:

We have one flock number for both
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Penninehillbilly on May 18, 2016, 04:50:56 pm
For my own information: you presumably need a different flock number for goats if you keep sheep?

I have just one for both, but I think it may depend on your local office. I have heard of people having a different number each for sheep and goats.

I could do with a different flock number, idiots at Dalton filled something in wrong and can't alter it, apparently I have bred over 12900 goats !!!
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: shygirl on May 18, 2016, 06:02:57 pm
I milk my bagots sometimes and although I don't get more than half a pint, it is the most delicious milk ever.
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: roddycm on May 18, 2016, 06:13:32 pm
In the states they milk Nigerian dwarf goats! Some are very milky! I believe there are also some breeders in the netherlands... Look on goaty friends fb group and here http://www.andda.org/ (http://www.andda.org/)

I would love some!
Title: Re: Milking pygmies??
Post by: Beeducked on May 18, 2016, 08:55:12 pm
I always thought I would like some as I mainly make cheese with the milk and it has a very high butterfat content. Sticking with my ANs though and they have fantastic milk.