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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: moprabbit on May 03, 2016, 10:52:16 pm

Title: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: moprabbit on May 03, 2016, 10:52:16 pm
Just wondered if anyone had any ideas...I'll probably be having my sheep sheared towards the end of May or the beginning of June depending on the weather. I saw the first green bottle today and panic immediately sets in regarding flystrike! I know Clik protects for up to 16 weeks, but some shearers don't like to shear if chemicals have been used. So I wondered what things I could use against flystrike before I have them sheared that is effective in protecting the sheep but not harmful for my shearer? Thank you!
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: Liz Kershaw on May 03, 2016, 11:41:31 pm
would love to know the answer to this as well ... Big discussion today over what to do as last lamb due 10th May and not sure if you can Clik nursing ewes?
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: Hellybee on May 04, 2016, 12:31:48 am
Clickzen? Around 6 weeks though still.Short withdrawal.


Crovect. Ans similar products But no shearer will touch a recently crovected  sheep.


That's it really.






Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: shotblastuk on May 04, 2016, 06:10:44 am
Here's a couple of websites which may be of interest.  http://www.thenaturalfibre.co.uk/sites/default/files/files/Flies.pdf (http://www.thenaturalfibre.co.uk/sites/default/files/files/Flies.pdf)

http://www.barrier-biotech.com/product.php?pid=BR (http://www.barrier-biotech.com/product.php?pid=BR)

I am in the same situation so I'm going to try the blowfly repel
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: silkwoodzwartbles on May 04, 2016, 06:11:02 am
Crovect only has an 8 day withdrawal period for meat so I wouldn't imagine it would bother a shearer coming in in a month's time. We Crovect'ed our girls last weekend - better safe than sorry :)
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: Sbom on May 04, 2016, 07:36:35 am
Get them crutched out to help keep them clean, this will help to keep them clean and therefore less attractive to flys
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: ladyK on May 04, 2016, 07:52:14 am
I have used Blowfly Repel for short term situations and found it to be very effective.
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: Hellybee on May 04, 2016, 08:33:30 am
I know our shearer wouldn't even after 8 weeks of crovect.


We re doing the lambs with clik and the ewes with cliczen.
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: Bionic on May 04, 2016, 08:59:52 am
Before shearing I do mine with some stuff that someone on here recommended a while ago. sorry, can't remember the name right now. I think it has a base of citronella and needs to be sprayed on once a week but its easy to do.
Its cheap too. I have had the same bottle for 3 years now and it cost about £10.

You dilute a few mils with water. I've not had a problem since I started using it,

After shearing I use clik for the rest of the season
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on May 04, 2016, 09:20:01 am
you could douse them with quassia chip and citronella, the flies hate that.  But it would require it everyday and it may permiate the fleece as the smell is rather strong :yuck:
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 04, 2016, 09:44:51 am
Crovect only has an 8 day withdrawal period for meat so I wouldn't imagine it would bother a shearer coming in in a month's time. We Crovect'ed our girls last weekend - better safe than sorry :)

Crovect acts on the fleece; it is not systemic like Clik.  Hence the short meat withdrawal.  But it persists in the fleece for at least 10 weeks.

Some shearers, some shepherds and some handspinners have developed sensitivity to Crovect and can be made extremely ill handling fleeces which have been Crovected within the previous months.  You should always tell your shearer, and any handspinners to whom you are marketing your fleeces, if the sheep have been Crovected within the 4 months prior to shearing.

They really should carry a 'fleece withdrawal' on the products.  :idea:
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: Fleecewife on May 04, 2016, 10:46:36 am
Moprabbit - as you have only four pet sheep, it would be easier and less potentially dangerous to anyone handling them or the fleeces, if you just checked your sheep over carefully each day.  Crutch them if they are dirty and deal with any scouring and look deep down within the fleece to skin level for any sign of strike - however, I doubt a fly would get past daily checks.
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: Blackbird on May 04, 2016, 11:37:24 am
I use Dyna-mite or Blowfly Repel until shearing, then Clik afterwards. I hate this time between flies appearing and shearing, especially as the new grass has led to a couple of mucky bums. Have clipped and dagged but still worry till they are shorn. 
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: Marches Farmer on May 04, 2016, 11:39:58 am
Watch out for a sheep separating herself from the rest, sudden small, sharp movements, nabbing at side fleece or a foot, damp looking patches on the fleece (especially across the shoulders), and lots off lies settling on or buzzing around one sheep in preference to the others.  Also check feet are sound as flies will lay in clees with footrot.  We don't put anything on the fleece coming up to shearing and do the lambs with Clik once we see more than half-a-dozen greenbottles in a day.  We put the mature sheep on the windiest fields if we can.
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: Hellybee on May 04, 2016, 01:56:55 pm
^^^ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: Bionic on May 04, 2016, 03:42:26 pm
I use Dyna-mite or Blowfly Repel until shearing, then Clik afterwards. I hate this time between flies appearing and shearing, especially as the new grass has led to a couple of mucky bums. Have clipped and dagged but still worry till they are shorn.

Ah yes, Dyna-mite is the one I use and couldn't think of the name and was in a rush as I had to go out.
Thanks Blackbird
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: moprabbit on May 04, 2016, 04:37:00 pm
Thanks for all the replies. I check my sheep daily so I hope I would spot anything untowards but I still worry at this time of year! Those websites Shotblastuk are very useful -thank you. I think I'm going to get some Dyno-mite and/or Blowfly repel to have until they are sheared and as Fleece wife suggests check daily. Thank you!

Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: silkwoodzwartbles on May 04, 2016, 07:48:01 pm
Thanks, I didn't realise that about Crovect, learn something new every day. I'll let my OH know as he has the fun job of shearing them.
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: Hellybee on May 04, 2016, 09:38:57 pm
I've said a few times on here that I've used crovect unprotected, a very silly thing to do, the side eddects are nasty, headaches, nausea, disturbed sleep.
Title: Re: Short term fly strike prevention
Post by: SallyintNorth on May 04, 2016, 10:27:39 pm
It certainly is a noxious product.  I have to wear all the protection or I get streaming eyes, tightness breathing, raw throat, etc.  Tellingly, it causes my waterproofs to degenerate  :o

Still better than fly strike, of course.