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Title: Dog not well any ideas?
Post by: Penninehillbilly on April 28, 2016, 10:49:27 am
Hi. Our BC isn't well, seemed OK till yesterday pm,  then wouldn't eat her tea, just laid under table. Sides are heaving a bit as she breathes, tail stiff and she moves her back legs about as though to ease some pain. Eyes show she isn't happy. Passed normal motions on walk this morning.
Had a small amount of goat milk this morning, didn't get up for her breakfast so didn't try and encourage her.
Vet can't see her till 17.40 tonight.
In the meantime any ideas please?
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Post by: SallyintNorth on April 28, 2016, 10:51:46 am
No advice to offer but hoping the vet can sort her out this evening  :hug:
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Post by: Jukes Mum on April 28, 2016, 12:24:17 pm
Have you checked her for ticks?
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Post by: doganjo on April 28, 2016, 12:28:41 pm
That wouldn't cause those symptoms.  More, likely an injury or internal pain.  Just keep her calm and quiet till you can see your vet.
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Post by: Jukes Mum on April 28, 2016, 12:41:56 pm
Not likely but certainly worth checking for
http://www.petmd.com/dog/conditions/infectious-parasitic/c_dg_tick_paralysis (http://www.petmd.com/dog/conditions/infectious-parasitic/c_dg_tick_paralysis)
Title: Re: Dog not well any ideas?
Post by: Penninehillbilly on April 28, 2016, 12:42:52 pm
Thanks. Not active enough for injury, I'm thinking internal pain as well, but she hasn't had anything apart from normal meals.
We did change their food, but only starting gradual change to a different working mix. Her sister is fine.
She has moved herself to different places in kitchen. Currently laid flat out and sounds like she's snoring. Actually may sound a bit 'rattley'(?).
Just seen your post JM, I'll check it out.
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Post by: Jukes Mum on April 28, 2016, 12:44:57 pm
Does her tummy feel at all hard/tender?
I prescribe lots of loves x
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Post by: fsmnutter on April 28, 2016, 01:10:59 pm
Sounds like could be a gastritis/pancreatitis or some other internal upset causing tummy pain.
I'm sure the vet will do a thorough examination and prescribe something to help.
In the meantime somewhere calm, comfy and quiet and access to drinking water would be what I would prescribe.
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Post by: Penninehillbilly on April 28, 2016, 01:15:24 pm
Sounds like could be a gastritis/pancreatitis or some other internal upset causing tummy pain.
I'm sure the vet will do a thorough examination and prescribe something to help.
In the meantime somewhere calm, comfy and quiet and access to drinking water would be what I would prescribe.
Thanks, leaving her quiet to do as she wants. Just seems a long time till vets appointment.  Poor girl looks at me with big brown eyes and there's nothing I can do.
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Post by: YorkshireLass on April 28, 2016, 01:33:38 pm
The waiting is awful!
Does she tend to scavenge or hunt at all? Wondering if she's found something toxic, or a poisoned rat?
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Post by: in the hills on April 28, 2016, 02:52:04 pm
Our lab bitch recently behaved in a similar way. She had been sick and had diarrhoea in the morning so I just fed a few dry biscuits that day. No more sick etc until the next morning. Overnight she was sick and had diarrhoea again. She seemed really uncomfortable. Kept moving around, getting into different positions, stretching out her back legs. Also whimpering slightly. We were lucky in that our vet was able to see her within a couple of hours. As she walked into the surgery she dripped fresh red blood! Turned out to be colitis and the blood nothing to worry about. Vet gave her a jab to calm the digestive system and she was fine by teatime. However her motions took nearly 3 weeks to return to normal.  Vet said that she had probably eaten some rubbish causing bad bacteria to flourish in her gut.

Could she have eaten something that has upset her?
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Post by: SallyintNorth on April 28, 2016, 03:03:12 pm
Phb mentioned that the bitch passed normal motions this morning, or I'd have been thinking the same. 

If she'll take anything, and you think it's guts, I swear by probiotic yoghurt.

As I write this, your appointment is in less than 4 hours, thank goodness.  :fc:
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Post by: Penninehillbilly on April 29, 2016, 02:08:15 am
Bad Day
Had to take her down to Halifax and leave her for further tests, turned out to be an acute form of leukemia (sp?) we went back down about 9pm to hold her while saying goodbye, luckily in some ways she was on a drip so no extra injection.
RIP beautiful Dreamer
Its not fair.
Title: Re: Dog not well any ideas?
Post by: SallyintNorth on April 29, 2016, 05:47:22 am
So sorry to read this, phb.  What a terrible shock for you.   :bouquet:  :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Louise Gaunt on April 29, 2016, 07:46:08 am
That is sad news.  :hug:
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Post by: in the hills on April 29, 2016, 07:55:41 am
So sorry.  :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Buttermilk on April 29, 2016, 08:18:59 am
Hugs.
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Post by: YorkshireLass on April 29, 2016, 08:49:04 am
Oh no! So sorry  :(
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Post by: DavidandCollette on April 29, 2016, 08:58:29 am
 :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Jukes Mum on April 29, 2016, 10:08:34 am
Oh penninehillbilly, I am so sorry to hear this. Can't say anything to make it better, but sending hugs  :hug:
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Post by: shygirl on April 29, 2016, 10:16:44 am
 :bouquet:
that wasn't what I was expecting to hear. sorry x
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Post by: Bionic on April 29, 2016, 10:51:47 am
I'm so sorry to hear of your loss but at least it all happened quickly.
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Post by: doganjo on April 29, 2016, 03:57:26 pm
Oh I'm so sorry.   :'( :'( 

Nothing will make it feel better for you just now.  We feel your suffering - we've all been through it
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Post by: harmony on April 29, 2016, 04:03:06 pm
So sorry  :bouquet: :hug:
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Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on April 29, 2016, 04:10:28 pm
I am so sorry to hear about this [member=22672]penninehillbilly[/member], it is so horrible to lose your dog. I lost my own faithful sheepdog back in 2013, I held him whilst he was being put to sleep and it broke my heart. He was a faithful companion, rounded up the sheep without me saying a word and was a brilliant father to all of his puppies, and what beauts they turned out too. I still miss him everyday but I carry him in my heart always. Time is a healer and it does become gradually easier. when my dog died it felt like a part of me had been ripped out, but I gradually came to terms with it. I bought a new puppy in 2014, a bit too soon, but she helped bring me out of the shell I had put myself into and suddenly I could see the brightness and beautifulness of everything around me. I do think about him now and again, but he has become something in the past which I can go back to if I am feeling down. Keep smiling and things will get easier, I promise  :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Rosemary on April 29, 2016, 05:14:11 pm
 :hug: So sorry to hear this.
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Post by: devonlady on April 30, 2016, 09:55:03 am
God rest him.
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Post by: Penninehillbilly on May 01, 2016, 01:28:24 am
Thanks all. Shock is easing, luckily there is still her sister to keep me sane, though completely different temperament, doesn't want that nearness as much.
We buried Dreamer today, various reasons inc. weather meant she had to stay in the van yesterday.
Some of you may remember We lost our BC Jack in 2013, that hit me hard, shortly after it was on this forum these 2 girls were needing a home, and I was lucky enough to be allowed to take them on, Dreamer was so loving she soon won my heart and helped me get over but never forget Jack, for her to go so soon didn't seem fair, I cant forget the look in her eyes, i'm sure she was asking for help. Maybe she'll come back in another life to help someone else who needs her :-)


But the happy memory i'll remember is just last week, i tripped over a tussock of grass and sprawled out in the field, Dreamer obviously thought id laid down to play and was straight in there, wriggling and licking my face, so we had a hug and cuddle laid out there in the field, dafty dog :-).


So I'll be looking for a hardy shrub to plant on her grave, that flowers about this time of year, I'll be looking round here but suggestions welcome :-)
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Post by: doganjo on May 01, 2016, 11:35:31 am
‘Beautiful Dreamer’ named 2014 Rose of the Year -coral-toned flowers with a light, licorice scent.
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Post by: Penninehillbilly on May 01, 2016, 11:49:58 am
That sounds lovely, not sure it will be hardy enough for where  I'm thinking of, but I could could plant one in a more sheltered spot.
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Post by: doganjo on May 01, 2016, 03:51:27 pm
We planted a prizewinning rose after my Dad died called Whisky Mac - he loved an occasional evening tipple and our surname was Maclennan.
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Post by: Penninehillbilly on May 01, 2016, 03:58:45 pm
‘Beautiful Dreamer’ named 2014 Rose of the Year -coral-toned flowers with a light, licorice scent.
Do you know if this is available in the UK? I've been looking but can only find american sites. I so want this rose now :-).
Still looking for something else for her grave though.
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Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on May 01, 2016, 04:03:04 pm
Here [member=22672]penninehillbilly[/member]  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Saavyseeds-Beautiful-Dreamer-Rose-Seeds/dp/B018ZYK282/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462114861&sr=8-1&keywords=rose+bush+beautiful+dreamer (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Saavyseeds-Beautiful-Dreamer-Rose-Seeds/dp/B018ZYK282/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462114861&sr=8-1&keywords=rose+bush+beautiful+dreamer)
I know these are just seeds, but i can only find these right now :)
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Post by: doganjo on May 01, 2016, 04:52:53 pm
Sorry, didn't realise it was an American rose we had - Homebase have a few bare root ones, slightly different names - http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/sweet-dream-bare-root-patio-bush-rose-262785 (http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/sweet-dream-bare-root-patio-bush-rose-262785)
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Post by: Sudanpan on May 01, 2016, 07:46:16 pm
So sorry to hear about Dreamer - may she visit you in your dreams with a waggy tail  :hug: