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Title: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: Batleyred on February 17, 2016, 04:03:20 pm
Hello i am John from near Leeds.

I live on an old chicken farm use to keep 15000. Now just have a few chickens, kunekune pigs and shetland ponies.

Own french bulldogs, 2 borders and 2 Caucasian Ovachakras and one central asain ovachakra.

We are looking for a new place soon in the dales, if we pass for planning on our barns. 
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: Old Shep on February 17, 2016, 07:00:13 pm
Hi welcome from near Skipton!


Had to google what an Overcharka was, and I thought I new dogs!  Look big and cuddly!


We have a 5 bed house in 3 acres for sale in Sutton in Craven if you're interested! (David Hill Estate Agent)
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: Rosemary on February 17, 2016, 07:38:07 pm
Hello and welcome from Carnoustie  :wave:
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 17, 2016, 09:48:23 pm
 :wave: and welcome from Shropshire.
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: SophieYorkshire on February 18, 2016, 07:29:25 am
Hi John  :wave:

Also from Leeds here, keep pigs, sheep, cattle, cats, chickens, rabbits, a couple of dogs, and two Caucasian ovcharkas too!  ;D

Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: Batleyred on February 18, 2016, 08:06:10 am
Hi, thanks for the welcomes everyone

Pics of my ovachakras

Jack 4 months first day after his trip from Russia
(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/batleyred/DSC_0002_zpsosrsrhfr.jpg) (http://s328.photobucket.com/user/batleyred/media/DSC_0002_zpsosrsrhfr.jpg.html)

MeMe and Coca, Coco lives on the farm above us now, they kept getting broken into, not no more  ;D
(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/batleyred/16381_296467793873650_2682274928078439925_n_zpskvgfng42.jpg) (http://s328.photobucket.com/user/batleyred/media/16381_296467793873650_2682274928078439925_n_zpskvgfng42.jpg.html)

Jack 8 months
(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/batleyred/DSC_0064_zpssuvyikm1.jpg) (http://s328.photobucket.com/user/batleyred/media/DSC_0064_zpssuvyikm1.jpg.html)
(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/batleyred/DSC_0031_zpsotdj5jbv.jpg) (http://s328.photobucket.com/user/batleyred/media/DSC_0031_zpsotdj5jbv.jpg.html)

Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: SophieYorkshire on February 18, 2016, 08:40:50 am
John - just out of curiosity why did you import them?  :) How old are they now?
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: Batleyred on February 18, 2016, 09:02:55 am
Yes they are imported, MeMe is 3 years old, Jack is 8 months and Chakra is 2 and a half.
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: DavidandCollette on February 18, 2016, 09:06:27 am
 :wave:  good luck with your house hunting
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: Penninehillbilly on February 18, 2016, 10:43:22 am
Hi and welcome from another W yorkshire dweller.
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: devonlady on February 18, 2016, 12:58:42 pm
And hello from Devon
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: Buffy the eggs layer on February 18, 2016, 03:02:40 pm
Hi from a kune keeper in East Yorkshire. Am I right in thinking that they are a mastif / guarding / fighting breed that traditionally have their ears clipped or are they more a mastif / guarding / shepherding breed like pyreneans ?


They are beautiful dogs.
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: SophieYorkshire on February 18, 2016, 03:31:14 pm
Hi from a kune keeper in East Yorkshire. Am I right in thinking that they are a mastif / guarding / fighting breed that traditionally have their ears clipped or are they more a mastif / guarding / shepherding breed like pyreneans ?


They are beautiful dogs.

Buffy I also keep COs. UK bred COs don't have their ears clipped, only imported ones. They are traditionally bred for protecting livestock from predators such as bear and wolves (hence the clipped ears), and come under the 'livestock guardian dogs' category. They don't 'gather' and 'herd' like collies etc, but are more of a protector.

More recently they've been used in prisons in Russia and Eastern Europe and have had more 'guard' traits bred into them, and less livestock traits. Sadly this means a lot of plonkers are now buying them as aggressive accessories, and will probably eventually end up with them being banned in UK.

Caucasians are hard work, and absolutely nothing like any other UK livestock/guardian dog. Definitely not a 'first dog' for someone, my bitch would eat someone who interfered with 'her' pigs for breakfast! Lots of them unfortunately now appearing in rescue centres :(

This is a good video about them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyPQHDZ_6HU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyPQHDZ_6HU)

 


Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: Batleyred on February 18, 2016, 04:10:39 pm
As Sophie says, over hear they are property protectors suited to farms, estates etc. Do not accept strangers protect what they know. Mine are all temperament tested and are top end of the aggression scale. They are well trained and trained in protection etc. We train them every Monday with a protection trainer. Obedience is key too them, then onto different situations they may find themselves from intruders.

Young Jack being put through his paces. These dogs need to no right from wrong from the beginning.
(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/batleyred/DSC_0217_zpsrkm3yqfz.jpg) (http://s328.photobucket.com/user/batleyred/media/DSC_0217_zpsrkm3yqfz.jpg.html)

They have always had the guard trait imo as they guard the flock from bears and wolves etc. In the wrong hands this breed could be ruined. I have a good friend in Russia who sources dogs for me. 
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on February 18, 2016, 04:44:53 pm
Hi and welcome from Mid Wales :wave: I hope that you manage to find somewhere soon. I must admit that I was thinking of buying one last year, but was absoloutely smitten with a other breed (incidently another guard dog  origionating in eastern europe). Theyre beauts but I am sorry to say that I would never buy them. :(
Title: Re: New here from Yorkshire
Post by: Batleyred on February 18, 2016, 04:54:59 pm
Hi, thank you we have found somewhere but need to wait for our barns to be passed for houses. What breed dog did you find ?

I've just bought a doberman for a house guard from Russia from excellent working lines. Dog mad lol.
(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/batleyred/IMG_20160217_182046_zpslf6jpvcx.jpg) (http://s328.photobucket.com/user/batleyred/media/IMG_20160217_182046_zpslf6jpvcx.jpg.html)
Sire
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Dam
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