The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: oink on April 16, 2010, 07:20:06 pm
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Just curious whether our hobby/job/lifestyle affects our votes.
Just a bit of fun really ;)
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NONE!!!
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I will vote. A lot of people have suffered so that I can have the vote so I will. Probably SNP, following in my father's footsteps.
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Sandy! Out of principle you should... after all the Suffregettes went through, and all the women in the world who don't get a vote cos they don't have a p*nis!
(sorry, but it had to be said!)
though I know that "however you vote, its the Government that wins!"
Annie, you must type faster than me!
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Annie, you must type faster than me!
I use all five fingers on both hands ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I don't!
Have tried an online touch-typing course, but I cant seem to do it in practice outside of the website!
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I was only joking - I can't type for toffee. But I fling my fingers around the keyboard all in the wrong places and sometimes it comes out OK and other times I have to use the spellchecker for every word!
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I can type...did commerce at school and can use two hands...and I used to play piano!!!
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Its just the alcohol that gets in the way eh Sandy? ;) ;D
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Yes I will vote I do a lot of moaning about the Goverment so feel at least if I have voted it gives me the right to complain.
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i was originally thinking of not voting - because i am disgusted with the behaviour of MPs - independant and party tied candidates in their behaviour.
from expense scandals to sex scandals to drugs scandals to "questions" (or bungs/backhanders) scandals
all in all, none of them are worthy of the position
However, I just remembered who my MP was - Michael Conartist, sorry, connarty. A TWAT of the highest order. So, I will look and see who is hte 2nd favourite and they will get my vote - purely to oust that toley of a man.
However, if I was to vote with my heart, i'd vote SNP. I am really impressed (on the whole) with what the Scottuish Parliament has done/achieved. the way it operates, the transparency and the sense that it is doing something for the people of scotland (especially education and health care)
Of course, it's not without it's problems - but by and large, i thnk they have done more good than harm.
Though, the SNP are a funny party, the nationalist card holds them together, but they are a mix of left wing communist, trade unionists to ultra right wing near nazis and all points in between. The are also not without their twats - but at least they are "our" twats!!!
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Hello Sellick I was all for voting for Colin but hes not about any more! Like old Enoch maybe? ??? :farmer:
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I too was thinking of not voting but I just can't do it. I remember a few years ago I didn't vote for my usual party and I came home and cried. I think I am going to vote tactically this time.
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No question SNP. If I was south of the border, Lib Dem
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Anti nuclear, anti war SNP for me.
JD
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I think the SNP have shown a better understanding of rural issues than the other parties and their policies are quite "green". I would have considered Lib Dem had they not refused to support a referendum on self-determination, which seems to me neither liberal nor democratic. I'm not saying I would or wouldn't support independence, but it would be nice to be asked.
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I think the right to vote is important for anybody men or women. Though I agree thats it been longer fight for women in the UK.
I go through stages of thinking of just ruining my vote to lodge complaint or not voting at all in order to make a point - but lets face it - not voting makes no change. You have to vote, no matter how irrelevant you think your vote maybe.
Myself? I am still not sure this time. As a strategic voter in the past I have always voted Labour as it makes it less likely for the tories to get in.
This year I think its the same - although as a high earner, land owner, employer and no kids I would certainly be better off under the 'utopia' that the tories seem offer, after all I am 'big business'. But I know for sure that the people on the ground of this country would be better off being 'left' of the tories and although LD seem to be climbing Labout again is the best bet.
Ta
Baz
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Sandy! Out of principle you should... after all the Suffregettes went through, and all the women in the world who don't get a vote cos they don't have a p*nis!
(sorry, but it had to be said!)
though I know that "however you vote, its the Government that wins!"
Annie, you must type faster than me!
I say thats a bit strong........ ;D
Well even though i do have a p*nis alas i will not be voting in this election as Im out of blighty but if I were to vote who would it be mmmmmmm..........
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Dan reckons there shoudl be a box on the voting paper "None of the above", which would allow people to express disatisfaction with all candidates without having to spoil the paper or not vote at all.
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Dan reckons there shoudl be a box on the voting paper "None of the above", which would allow people to express disatisfaction with all candidates without having to spoil the paper or not vote at all.
If that were the case Rosemary I guess "none of the above" would be the next PM. ::) ::)
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IMO anyone who does not vote is voting for anarchy - and I for one am not one of the strongest or fittest and would therefore be shot at dawn by those that are. How can anybody hope to achieve change by not voting and how can you complain about anything if you dont vote.
Its a shitty system but we are stuck with it.
Ta
Baz
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B g e r I've burned the bread. I was so fascinated sitting here reading this topic I forgot to take the bread out. Thats 6 loaves that will go to the hens, or I suppose it could be treated like the toast I serve it black you scrape it to the colour you like. :-[
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I dont know who to vote for this time, they all seem to be as bad as each other although lib dems came across well on the tv debate. Last night we had dinner with my father in law who is a property developer and has a larger property portfolio across bristol and bath. He has been told by Barclays bank that if any other party other than conservatives get in they will be recalling the loans that he has taken out and he will have a month to repay £800,000. If conservatives get in they will not recall the loans. (He has very different arrangements with preferential rates with this bank that us other mere mortals couldnt get!). He has stopped developing for the last few months although has kept on all of the tradesmen that work for him full time and has kept paying them even though they are not doing much work at the moment. He said last night that if conservatives dont get in he will have to make them all redundant and as they all have families this is going to be a pretty awful thing to do. as he will no longer be able to get the loan rates he has been able to have up to now and so no longer will be able to do the big development projects . He has warned them that they maybe facing losing their jobs and they all look at him wide eyed with the question why? He was a very upset man last night due to the fact that he may have to put all of these men out of work and so for that reason I guess I will be voting conservative.
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Do you mean that the bank is holding him over a barrel? They are being political?
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That is deplorable. So the conservatives can only win if the banks resort to blackmail?????? I think I would have a word with someone higher up. Banking ombudsman maybe.
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I read in this mornings newspaper that if the flying ban is not lifted by 7pm. today the government have hinted that they shall send in the Royal Navy to help bring stranded people home. Now, I thought the armed forces were stretched to their resourceful and financial limits? Is this a ploy for Mr B to get some more votes from those he rescues? Vote for me and you may board this ship!
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Of course it is James People keep telling me how much these wars cost us.What ever cost me It's not true,the only thing it is costing is some poor chaps life that in my opinion should not be there anyway.The men and women that are there are being paid any way the machinery is there So lets go and have a pretend war I think it's called an Exercise and pop a few off Now this Afgan thing(not dogs Annie the other sort) must have used up tons of munitions we are holding.So some people are gainfully employed moving this stuff about aren't they?
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Wow. And there's David Cameron teling us to choose hope over fear. Kind of ironic if his henchmen are threatening businessmen like that. Do you honestly believe that a bank would / could do that? They'd be cutting their own throats - they exist by lending money. Calling in laons to sound companies just doesn't make business sense never mind being immoral (not that immorality ever bothered the banks).
Scare tactics - and the Tories accuce Labour of it.
Last week's debate and the outcome certainly seems to have scared the sh1t out of the two "main" parties and has added a whole new dimension. They obvioulsy didn't even consider the Lib Dems and they have no plan on how to deal with this upsurge in popularity. Now they're trying to scare us with a hung parliament. Almost every other country in Europe manages to work with coalitions, so why can't we? It's not like the current system is that great.
The Scottish Parliament has a minority administration and I think, in some respects, it makes for more balanced government.
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It has been hinted at this morning that the Government may possibly declare a state of emergency due to this no fly ban, therefore postponing the election.
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and I dare say making an excuse for Fuel prices to increase AGAIN!
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Did anyone see the report that Nick Clegg is almost as popular as Churchill was! Quite amazing!
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It has been hinted at this morning that the Government may possibly declare a state of emergency due to this no fly ban, therefore postponing the election.
I have already declared my own state of emergency......I could get stuck here in Africa if they dont fly soon
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Perhaps there's another way of looking at the Barclays 'threat'. Rather than assume that they are trying to bully people into voting for their favoured party, (hardly something a sane Conservative leader would endorse knowing how popular bankers currently are), perhaps they are warning that if Brown gets back in either in his own right or in a deal with Clegg, it is their considered opinion that the country will be bankrupted.
Only a thought.
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I thikn we should set up the Accidental Politcal Party! cant make any more cock ups that the rest of them.
I'm for home secretary, anyone for
PM - Must have silly posture and mannerisms, oh and a gold medal b*ll5hitter
Chancellor - Must have serious eyebrow growth issues
Education - Must be prepared for 6 month post before being replaced
Health - Free Bupa as you now the real cock up in the NHS
And dont forget my pedigree chums, you get a free house and to eat in restaurants that would cost us mere mortals more than a weeks salary, not to mention the outrageously great holidays.
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I thikn we should set up the Accidental Politcal Party! cant make any more cock ups that the rest of them.
I'm for home secretary, anyone for
PM - Must have silly posture and mannerisms, oh and a gold medal b*ll5hitter
Chancellor - Must have serious eyebrow growth issues
Education - Must be prepared for 6 month post before being replaced
Health - Free Bupa as you now the real cock up in the NHS
And dont forget my pedigree chums, you get a free house and to eat in restaurants that would cost us mere mortals more than a weeks salary, not to mention the outrageously great holidays.
Some say Im full of Poop.......so I could be a good candidate for poiltics ;)
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I'll be voting Labour as I always have. Although I live in the South West and I guess the Lib Dems will do even better than usual this time, I believe in voting for what you believe in. And I believe, education, the NHS, the economy, yes the economy despite world recession, have done much better under Labour than they would have done otherwise. I believe most people who are not in what is disrespectfully called 'the underbelly of society' are better off now than they were 13 years ago. Yes, as there alway has been, there is much rural poverty, but the basic services are there for all. Transport (since Tory de-reguation) and fuel/water prices (since Tory privatisation) are a problem for many and that needs addressing. And if Maggie hadn't agreed that people could buy council houses at knock down prices with none of the money going back into housing, there would be a stock of social housing there for those who need it now, particularly in villages and small towns. I don't agree with the war but I do believe that Labour went into it in good faith and mistakenly believe in what they were doing. Wow this should put the cat among the pigeons!
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I don't think anyone should be criticised for voting for waht they believe in.
I think an awful lot of harm was done by the previous Tory government like the privatisation of the utilities, the transport system and so on, that I can't se ever being undone. I'm a socialist by nature but I think we need some fresh ideas particularly around Trident / nuclear and political reform. Maybe a hung parliament will make that happen. I could NEVER vote Tory.
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I will be voting Conservative. When I got married under a labour government I could not get a council house and took out a mortgage at 14% to
buy a very small flat above a bookies.
I agree it was a mistake selling off the council houses and not reinvesting the money but houses are available if you are either an immigrant or a
single mother, in the time conservative were in power we managed to buy a nice house, save some money and run a successful business, all be
it a very small one. Today my husband has had to go abroad to work at 63 doing a job that should be done by someone half his age, he should
have retired last year on a decent pension which Gordon Brown stole, my business is struggling, I have had to lay off one of my workers ( I did
only have 2) and if Labour get back into power then I have no hope of surviving as I am dependant on the construction industry
Sorry Starcana but there is no way Labour went into Iraq in good faith and lets be honest we are only in Afghanastan to suck up to the
Americans. :censored:
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I agree with you Starcana. I have always voted Labour but I am voting SNP as a tactical vote and because of Trident and the illegal war. In the event of a hung parliament minority parties will have a strong hand. The Tories do not, and never will have, a mandate to govern in Scotland. We have never recovered from what Thatcher and co did to us north of the border in terms of health/hospitals, housing, transport and our heavy industry. Not to mention the Poll Tax!
JD l
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Well I will be voting conservative. I own my own business and I'm sick of being taxed within an inch of my life with all the tax breaks you used to get gone and the Tories have promised a review of ir35 which is a real worry for consultants. My son can't find any work other than in a crisp factory and even then he competes for shifts with bloody economic migrants. Who btw I don't blame for coming here why wouldn't you if it offers a better living. I blame the labour government. So never again will I vote labour and the lib dems want to let in anyone so nope Tory for me. Even sorted voting by proxy as we are meant to be in USA.
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well we will get the government we deserve! We are quick to complain but wouldn't dream of doing anything about it. Even now when we have the chance to make a difference we will still vote ( or not)for the same thing.
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I will vote S.N.P as usual, don't trust the rest of them.
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I don't vote...never have.
Those who do have a task ahead of them in making the all important decision.
The Tories are talking about repeal of the Hunting Act, if that's any help. ;) ;D
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:)i am sick and tired of living under labour, my OH is self employed we started the bussiness during the last recession but nothing could compare to the last 18 months or so with no help from the government they tax us to an inch of going out of bussiness and hand it out to the lazy so and so's that refuse to work.
the local labour candidate says he will take a 25% pay cut if elected and give it back to the country he wants to live in the real world our turnover last year was almost 50% down.
for the first time ever we are openly supporting a candidate we have a 4 x 4 poster on one of our gates and two smaller ones on the grass verge outside our house in support of our local conservative candidate.
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I don't vote...never have.
Those who do have a task ahead of them in making the all important decision.
The Tories are talking about repeal of the Hunting Act, if that's any help. ;) ;D
Me too, ive never voted but was thinking about starting, but dont have a clue where to start, i dont have the slightest clue on anything political ???
Was thinking about the hunting ban also, altho its no really important on the scale of the money situation ??? I havent the first idea on where to get registered to vote
Danielle
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It is your right to vote. It is your responsibility to vote. the right and responsibility were won hard for us women. Do your homework. Listen to what your candidates say. Ignore the loudmouthed front faces - they are only in it for the money and power. Vote locally!
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here Hear!
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I agree Annie. Whatever your political persuasion it is a responsibilty for over 18 year olds to vote. There are loads of helpful website that go through questionairres to assist in your choice, you should also be able to do a bit of Reading on the net about your local candidate and of course there are the debates. However you chose to become better informed i would urge everyone to exercise their right to vote. After all if you don't vote you have no right to complain about the government that we get!
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I agree Annie. Whatever your political persuasion it is a responsibilty for over 18 year olds to vote. There are loads of helpful website that go through questionairres to assist in your choice, you should also be able to do a bit of Reading on the net about your local candidate and of course there are the debates. However you chose to become better informed i would urge everyone to exercise their right to vote. After all if you don't vote you have no right to complain about the government that we get!
Out of interest Helen which sites, I'll give it a go? Thanks.
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It is your right to vote. It is your responsibility to vote. the right and responsibility were won hard for us women. Do your homework. Listen to what your candidates say. Ignore the loudmouthed front faces - they are only in it for the money and power. Vote locally!
Good point, but it helps when they actually canvas the doors, unlike round our way.
2 weeks to go & we've not had as much as a leaflet through our door ???
Labour are useless
Tories are greedy gets & would steal the sugar out yer tea
Lib dem ? The jury is out on them
To be honest, i dunno who to vote for ???
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Ive printed my form off to take in to register to vote ;D, would also like to try the questionaire websites to help me choose who to vote for etc ???
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This is an interesting website - shows you just how useful you are as a voter - or not!
http://www.voterpower.org.uk/
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Its a very rough cut guide between left and right wing politics but take a look at this to help you decide your voting:-
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/leftvright_world.html
If you want to understand the 'vertical' dimension of left, right in modern politics then take a read here and do the test:-
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
I'd much rather be out on the yard than thinking of politics :)
Ta
Baz
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I'd rather not think about it either but it affects all of us so I do think about it. It's really difficult though.
If David Cameron could walk on water, I couldn't vote Tory and Dan and I have our own businesses. It's not just DC, but George Orborne and the frightful Gove man, who's shadow education minister. And Annabelle Goldie, leader of teh Scottish Tories. Aaarrrghhh. Where did they find her? She's bonkers. And scary.
I love how their "Choose hope not fear" slogan has bit them on the bum - now they are cr*pping themselves about a balanced parliament, they're trying to scare folk into voting for them. True colours, I think.
I'll stick with SNP and hope they hold a powerful hand - no Trident, no GM, decent public services.
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Wow baz. I have just wasted hours doing all the political tests, but I did enjoy it!
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Morning all Baz I also am not a political animal I actually had a pair of Labour canvassers at the door.You no doubt know the score.Woah woah a bit let me get a word in PLEASE I stated "If you can show me one good thing Austin Mitchell has done for Grimsby I will let you come in the booth with me and see me put a cross next to his name.After a somewhat heated debate they left under no imagination would I be voting labour! ??? >:( :( :o :farmer:
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I have no interest in any of the parties, or their long speeches on what they will do. As far as I can see, they have never done anything for us. Their main interest seems to lie with helping people with children, giving tax credits, child care allowances. What about those of us who do not have children?
Labour have held the seat in our area for the last two elections. He is stepping down, so it will be interesting to see if the Tories manage to get in.
The only reason I am on the electoral register is because it helps with such things as mortgage applications, otherwise, I would not be.
If I thought my vote would do any good, then yes, I may vote. But, its promises all along, and then its the same story whoever gets in.
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Roxy dear Does this mean you will not be watching the Three Stooges to night or the SNP at 7:30 Shame on you ;D ;D ;D :farmer:
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Well said Rosemary re Tories. They have one elected UK MP in the whole of Scotland and I hope there is one less after this election. If England votes in a Tory government they will have no mandate to govern Scotland nor will they care about Scottish issues. Time for a referendum I think!
JD
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Yes, Wizard, you guessed right about me not watching them on TV!!
I would rather watch paint dry :D
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I cannot think why we have to have all this junk mail all the bullsh*t in the daily papers In Gy we have two free papers (Disguised sheaf's of adverts)full of electioneering.Then hours of it on TV Roxy.I don't know how old you are but take it as gospel it was "Plant a tree in 73" then "Plant some more in 74" I wonder how many has been binned with vote for**** on?Just as a matter of interest none of the crap that has come through my door has a Made from recycled paper badge on it.Maybe it only needs to be recycled if you and I use some paper. ??? :-[