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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: ewesaidit on October 23, 2015, 05:51:42 pm

Title: Which to do first - fluke or wormer?
Post by: ewesaidit on October 23, 2015, 05:51:42 pm

I remember reading somewhere that if you are separately dosing for worms and fluke that it was best to do one or the other first and there was a reason for it and now I can't remember which way round it was!    Anyone have a view?   Does it matter?   

Also how long to leave between dosing for each - previously my vet advised as long as they are at least a few hours apart it should be fine.

Title: Re: Which to do first - fluke or wormer?
Post by: SallyintNorth on October 23, 2015, 06:13:09 pm

BH says if they're flukey you'd treat that first, then give them 10 days to recover from that.  The reason being that fluke and flukicides are hard on their systems, so get rid of that disease and give them time to recover before hitting them again with the wormer.

Title: Re: Which to do first - fluke or wormer?
Post by: ewesaidit on October 23, 2015, 06:29:10 pm

Great, thanks Sally.

Linked question - I know Fasinex is said to be safe to use on pregnant sheep - mine were tupped about three weeks ago and as it's now heading for late October and vet said wet summer = do them in October - is this dodgy so soon after tupping?   

Title: Re: Which to do first - fluke or wormer?
Post by: Hellybee on October 23, 2015, 06:46:41 pm

I'm sure I read somewhere that dosing shouldn't be done for at least 60 days after tupping?

Title: Re: Which to do first - fluke or wormer?
Post by: shep53 on October 23, 2015, 07:12:33 pm

The first month after tupping is when most embryos are lost , so best to keep any stress to a min

Title: Re: Which to do first - fluke or wormer?
Post by: Me on October 23, 2015, 07:49:20 pm

The pregnancy is most vulnerable for the first 13 days. As regards fluke/worm there are combination products such as Fasimec duo so you only handle once - clearly the fluke/worm worm/fluke isn't important

Title: Re: Which to do first - fluke or wormer?
Post by: Marches Farmer on October 24, 2015, 12:16:04 pm

Quote from: shep53 on October 23, 2015, 07:12:33 pm

The first month after tupping is when most embryos are lost , so best to keep any stress to a min

I agree.  Our ewes got the full springclean treatment yesterday, rams have gone in for 19 days and we won't handle them at all, or move them from the fields they're in, unless it's an emergency, for a month after that.

Title: Re: Which to do first - fluke or wormer?
Post by: ewesaidit on October 24, 2015, 09:02:52 pm

Thanks for the replies folks.   

Title: Re: Which to do first - fluke or wormer?
Post by: Foobar on October 25, 2015, 02:10:04 pm

After 40 days they are safe to handle (according to Eblex/HCCMPW).  By this time the embryo is safely implanted.


You should have done them before tupping :).

Title: Re: Which to do first - fluke or wormer?
Post by: ewesaidit on October 25, 2015, 04:37:58 pm

Probably right Foobar although that would have meant fluking them in September which felt a bit early and they had a late spring Flukiver (Closantel) dose.  I'll get everything right one of these years lol.

Title: Re: Which to do first - fluke or wormer?
Post by: Hellybee on October 25, 2015, 05:56:02 pm

Well I was only 20 days out Lols


We now in your situation so will be following the same path.  They have been fluked and will now have to wait til next dose. 40 days.  Cool.