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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: moony on September 24, 2015, 03:14:42 pm

Title: tagging
Post by: moony on September 24, 2015, 03:14:42 pm

Do you get a new flock number if you move holdings/house? I didn't think you did but just tried to order some and been told otherwise.

Title: Re: tagging
Post by: shep53 on September 24, 2015, 06:52:03 pm

Yes, tells which county/ parish / holding   you live in = CPH

Title: Re: tagging
Post by: moony on September 27, 2015, 09:31:46 pm

I have a new cph, got that a while ago. But i wasnt aware our flock number would also change. Bit of an unwanted surprise.

Title: Re: tagging
Post by: shep53 on September 28, 2015, 12:54:37 pm

Sorry need  to think about what I'm reading !      Your  flock number is specific to your holding  ,no idea and can't find an answer as to the information in the 6 digits

Title: Re: tagging
Post by: devonlad on September 29, 2015, 08:16:26 am

Yes. Flock number is specific to holding. In terms of traceability it is far more important to know where an animal came from geographically, than who was looking after it

Title: Re: tagging
Post by: moony on September 29, 2015, 08:23:18 am

So just to complicate things does that mean as we have two blocks of land with different CPH's we should have two flock numbers?

Title: Re: tagging
Post by: Marches Farmer on September 29, 2015, 08:26:10 am

If the keeper remains the same the flock number belongs to the main farm.  We have permanent grazing on a neighbour's smallholding with its own CPH but the flock number is that of the main farm.

Title: Re: tagging
Post by: Keepers on September 29, 2015, 09:13:52 am

I have three different flock numbers and 5 different CPH numbers, just to mix things up a bit

Title: Re: tagging
Post by: Badger Nadgers on September 29, 2015, 09:08:01 pm

According to https://www.gov.uk/guidance/sheep-and-goat-keepers-register-your-holding-and-flock-or-herd (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/sheep-and-goat-keepers-register-your-holding-and-flock-or-herd) it's linked to the main CPH no.

"APHA will give you a unique flock or herd mark, which is a 6 digit number used to identify your flock or herd that is linked to your main CPH.  "

(APHA was the AHVLA I assume)

According to http://www.smallholder.co.uk/news/927599.registering_a_holding/ (http://www.smallholder.co.uk/news/927599.registering_a_holding/)  it's per type of livestock and potentially more if you want:

"You will require different numbers for each type of livestock you wish to keep. You are also able to request separate numbers to identify different flocks.

Cattle Herd numbers and Sheep Flock numbers follow the pattern of a Country identifier followed by a unique 6 digit number, eg: UK 171688.

It is possible to be issued with the same number for cattle and sheep if you choose to keep both types of stock."