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Title: Fleas and my father
Post by: LouiseG on August 24, 2015, 07:08:54 pm
long story but could anyone shed some light  :idea:
A week last Sunday (8days) my parents came for lunch. My father went home and on Monday afternoon complained he had some flea bites around his ankles. He has continued to be bitten all week and blames my dog and cat. They have no pets at there house but do have occasional visiting dogs.


My dog recently had a new bravecto flea tablet from the vet and I confess the cat did have fleas a couple of weeks ago, which I speedily treated with Advocate again from the vets. My father never went in the part of the house were the cat resides (dog and cat keep well clear of each other)
Neither myself or my partner have any bites, and trust me we would have reacted to them by now if we had.


He refuses to visit again as says we gave them to him. Did we?


Any advice greatly received.  :(
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: Womble on August 24, 2015, 07:22:39 pm
Yuk! You've got me itching just reading this!

My father never went in the part of the house were the cat resides

I once rented a room in a house with cats and started to get flea bites. The landlord said that was ridiculous, and how could I possibly blame little Nermal and Fluffy (and no, I have not changed the names!). However, it transpired that the reason I was being bitten was because the fleas were in the carpet in my room, but I had kept the cats out, so the only thing they had to munch in my room was me!  In the rest of the house they preferred cats to humans, and hence I was the only one who got bitten.

I don't know of course, but is it possible that's what's happened to you Louise?  :-\
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: cloddopper on August 24, 2015, 07:25:05 pm
The flea bites will be cat fleas  for some reason they like older folk .
 This humid weather has seen an explosion of them . It can take a couple of years of dedicated  attack to clear your home of all eggs as flea eggs can exist in carpets , skirting board cracks etc for seven or so years.  You also have to regularly worm the cats & dogs to help prevent a cyclic reinfection as well as give the flea treatments .

Over the counter supermarket product like the Bob Martins stuff is not as good as stuff from the vet but is is cheaper ..yer pays yer money and makes yer choice on that one.

The best stuff is from the licenced sellers of veterinary products unfortunately .
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: adamhfc on August 24, 2015, 08:31:50 pm
Funny you posting this I have 2 cats 1 dog and 2 weeks ago I woke to 3 bites on my ankle never been bitten before or since and dog and cat are all up to date on treatments have also never seen one on any of the animals and only one that gets in room is dog but never on bed

To add am 30 male and partners never been bitten and was not that night ether strange
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: Possum on August 24, 2015, 08:36:37 pm
This is maddening isn't it? But Clodhopper is right. You have treated your pets so all the fleas have hopped off them into the surrounding environment. Just waiting for a new host to walk in!


Not sure why you have not been bitten but I think it is something to do with sensory familiarity. Your vet will be able to explain it better than me. You might need to go back to the vet and agree on a way of eradicating fleas etc. on a long term basis.
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: adamhfc on August 24, 2015, 08:44:44 pm
Where your dad's all on same ankle mine where all on my left ankle on the inside
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: nutterly_uts on August 24, 2015, 09:55:57 pm
DO NOT USE BOB MARTIN ON CATS

Sorry for shouting but despite it being licensed, it is linked to huge numbers of fitting cats - usually if someone has put a small dog one on a cat, but I've personally nursed 3 cats who were treated with the cat version and ended up fitting for  days - only one made it.
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: adamhfc on August 24, 2015, 09:58:29 pm
Al front line here after one of mine started fitting after having bob martain flea tablets
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: devonlady on August 25, 2015, 08:10:17 am
There is a spray (for the house only, not to be used on animals!!) called 4fleas which is very effective. You close all windows, take a deep breath, hold it, spray around the room and rush out, closing the door. Leave the room closed for a couple of hours then open windows to air.
One of my grand-daughters is a target for fleas, a house can have fleas and no-one gets bitten (so you don't know they're there) but, if Phoebe goes in ,within minutes she is covered in flea bites. So, if you're not bitten doesn't mean fleas are not present, they're just waiting for Mr. Right, in this case your Dad!
Anti-histamine cream is good for bites. Hugs are good for miffed Dads!
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: Q on August 25, 2015, 09:02:27 am

He refuses to visit again .....


In my case its the grandchildren that bite.....   :roflanim:

A few flea bites wouldn't keep me from visiting family.
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: Me on August 25, 2015, 09:09:18 am
Dont blame him, he is likely right. If you have treated the animals but not the environment then you are waiting for the fleas to jump on your animals before they die and obviously more eggs are hatching in the environment, carpets, sofas etc as time goes by. As regards fleas in non-animal areas - I hear they can jump ;)
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: pharnorth on August 25, 2015, 09:18:56 am
I understand it is not so much that fleas on,y bite some people but more that the reaction is more obvious on some people, hence why your Father seems to be covered in bites and you are not.
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: LouiseG on August 25, 2015, 10:13:55 am
Thank you all for your help and advice, it's taken 6 months to get him to come visit me four miles down the road, I shall buy a can of flea spray for the house this morning, I really thought I had started to make headway with him, I shall try and look at this as a small set back.
I wish a hug could make things better  :hug: .
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: john and helen on August 25, 2015, 10:17:31 am
After years of carpet fitting and floor laying, i can assure you many many homes have fleas, even the cleanest of clean…especially if they have pets,

we treat kai with frontline 1 month the avocet the next, seeing as he is a working dog, you will be gobsmacked on how many fleas are on a wild rabbit…

a good test is to put a piece of white paper down on the floor near a skirting board…..
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: shygirl on August 25, 2015, 10:36:58 am
years ago when we took in flea ridden rescue dogs, our carpeted house became riddled with fleas. we had to fumigate the entire house repeatedly with spray from the vet. prevention is much better than cure. we have wooden floors now so never had a problem up here. we also don't suffer from ticks, but I put that down to where we live aswell.
I have fond memories of fleas jumping into my ex-husbands roast dinner. rofl   ha ha  ha there is a god.  :roflanim: :roflanim:
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: SallyintNorth on August 25, 2015, 10:38:57 am
Acclaim is good for treating the house; you do it about once every nine months and it breaks the breeding cycle.  The noxious kill-all sprays just kill what's alive at that moment, they don't kill the eggs... ;)

I think all the treatments are more effective if you have a good vaccum round before and after spraying, change animals bedding regularly, etc.

Sorry to hear you've been struggling with your relationship with your dad.  Hopefully once you can reassure him you've treated the house he'll be prepared to come again.   This one's for you  :hug:
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: SallyintNorth on August 25, 2015, 10:41:49 am
Oh, and just to share a hungry fleas story...


When I had a pair of kittens many years ago, they were housed in the spare room when we were out, and came out to play with us when we were in.

Once they had learned how to behave, they were free to roam around the house all the time, and the spare room was shut up again.

A few weeks later, I needed something from the spare room.  I was in there only seconds before my legs were literally covered in ravenously feeding fleas.  Urgh!   
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: waterbuffalofarmer on August 25, 2015, 11:01:04 am
wouldn't wooden floors be more practical for pets indoors, or even mock wooden flooring, or lino? I keep my dogs outside, in an outbuilding after I've exercised them, the only times they ever come into the house they stay in the linoed hallway and then I spray it with disinfectant and scrub everywhere, once they have gone out. I have to put flea stuff on the cat (which is also outside as he is a farm cat, every month or so) as he goes rabbiting and the fleas on wild rabbits are disgusting.
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: Penninehillbilly on August 25, 2015, 11:24:55 am
Sorry to hear about problems with your dad hope things get better again soon.  :hug:
I'm the flea indicator in our house  :(
We've had problems with our dogs, never had a problem before we took these on, it's me that gets bitten, never him, so nothing was getting done apart from treating the dogs, we had wood floor with carpet on top, he said the dogs needed the carpet. I was convinced the eggs were down between the floorboards as well (floor swelled the shrunk when we were flooded, so there are slight gaps).
Eventually I blew my top, carpet went out, vinyl flooring in, small area of new carpet for the dogs. problem over.
.... Until recently, dogs treated again, bit of carpet is vacced regularly, I think i may now be being bitten when I put my wellies on? is it possible for them to live in wellies? they got sprayed with 'indorex' flea killer and covered with plastic. I'm wearing a cheap version of 'crocs' and haven't been bitten since, but haven't put my boots on, prefer wet feet :-)
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: doganjo on August 25, 2015, 01:19:58 pm
Thank you all for your help and advice, it's taken 6 months to get him to come visit me four miles down the road, I shall buy a can of flea spray for the house this morning, I really thought I had started to make headway with him, I shall try and look at this as a small set back.
I wish a hug could make things better  :hug: .
There's an awful lot of mums and dads on here that ain't like me - disown him!  :innocent:  write him out of your will  :thumbsup:  No access to the kids  :thumbsup:  Don't visit him  :thumbsup:

He'll learn that family are worth more than a few bites!  :innocent:
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: Penninehillbilly on August 25, 2015, 04:59:32 pm
My dad wouldn't speak to me after we told them I was getting married again, he's walk out of the room when we walked in. I didn't care.
He did eventually come round, I think he realised I'd got it right second time round, when he died suddenly in 2007 - well, I still miss him so much, it still hurts there are things I wish I'd said.
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: LouiseG on August 25, 2015, 06:05:46 pm
Thanks, he is still being bitten 10 days after he visited, can my fleas have gone home with him and continue to munch him this much later?
There's an awful lot of mums and dads on here that ain't like me - disown him!  :innocent:  write him out of your will  :thumbsup:  No access to the kids  :thumbsup:  Don't visit him  :thumbsup:

He'll learn that family are worth more than a few bites!  :innocent:


Unfortunately he has taken both my kids with him onto my ex's side. I am in the process of moving 250 miles away in the near future (about 2months) to try and rebuild my life with my new partner  :excited:  a 50 acre farm in Cumbria near Appleby in West Morland. Very excited  :farmer:
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: Kimbo on August 25, 2015, 06:41:08 pm
best of luck Louise. Appleby is really great....apart from the horse fair  >:(

Im sorry about your Dad, your ex and your children. Your Dad had no business influencing your children; no-one knows what really goes on in a marriage except the 2 spouses. Keep smiling and hopefully your children will come round in the end. As for your Dad? Well, if he doesn't then its his loss
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: lord flynn on August 25, 2015, 06:52:50 pm
haven't read all of the replies but there is a lot of resistance to various compounds in fleas-in some parts of the country Frontline is expensively useless. Its worth changing every so often and if you have an infestation, keep up treatments for a good 18 months. and jeez, they're just fleas. And please, don't use permethrin based products anywhere near cats.
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: Backinwellies on August 25, 2015, 06:56:43 pm
Send him a can of acclaim with your goodbye card and go!   Best wishes for the future.
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: LouiseG on August 25, 2015, 09:08:16 pm
Thank you Back in wellies I was thinking of a can of R.I.P. Instead of acclaim with a card.  :innocent:
As you can tell I've been out for a dog walk this evening and tried to get everything back in perspective and now I feel a lot more positive having read all the comments. Thank you x
Title: Re: Fleas and my father
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 26, 2015, 12:43:24 am
That sounds a lot like an excuse to me. Surely no one gets that upset about a few bites.


Hope your new life is a wonderful as you deserve.  :hug: