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Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: Lesley Silvester on August 01, 2015, 11:59:58 pm

Title: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 01, 2015, 11:59:58 pm
Pom is getting patches of thinning hair along both sides of her spine and a bit lower down. It looks like she's rubbing those parts on the fence which I do see them do quite often. I've looked at pictures of mange in goats and I don't think it's that although, in one or two places, the skin looks a bit scaly. As mine are zero grazed, I don't know how she would get mange, if indeed it is. Or could it be a result of the very difficult kidding she had a month ago? She seems well enough, eats well and it produces more milk that I've ever had.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Penninehillbilly on August 02, 2015, 02:51:19 pm
Is she treated for external parasites? noticed one of mine scratching a while ago, found a louse on her, and one of the Togg babes looked a little thin coated in places, so they all got a dosing of louse powder. All looking well now.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Dogwalker on August 02, 2015, 02:53:00 pm
Does she usually moult?

A friends goat that stays here moults each year through June, looks very scrappy.
Now she looks really smart and sleek but will soon start growing a thicker coat again.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 03, 2015, 12:00:04 am
She isn't treated for anything but I have had a good look through her coat and not noticed her scratching either, just rubbing along the fence which she's always done.


She is moulting and I comb her most days. She loves it and even stops eating to enjoy it, even her beard. The patches are either side of her spine on both sides and just behind each shoulder at the same height which is why I think it's from rubbing on the fence.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: cuckoo on August 03, 2015, 09:35:37 am
Could try giving her a bath with a dog shampoo for itchy skin - that is what I did with my GG who had seriously scaly skin and hair loss. Mind you she also had a lick with added zinc added and dectomax and paramectin pouron too.  The bath loosened all the dead skin and she immediately seemed a lot better and a lot less itchy
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 04, 2015, 12:12:10 am
I'll try that but I don't know how she will react to being wet. I use the hose as an 'incentive' for them to go back in their yard and only have to walk towards it, shouting hose pipe, for them to stop eating the fuchsia and run back inside.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Cosmore on August 04, 2015, 10:31:18 am
I used to give my herd big blue rocky (cobalt) licks, they used to really go for it (there was a suspicion that we were in a 'pine' area). They always had beautiful coats, even after kidding. In addition to concentrates and grazing, they were fed good quality hay and regular browsings, mainly Elm. Unfortunately, they stopped doing the pure cobalt blue licks, they are now combined with other minerals, but you'd have to check that the ingredients are suitable for caprines.
Hope this may help.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: cuckoo on August 04, 2015, 10:59:21 am
We used warm water and rinsed her off with jugs not the hose - I wouldn't like to be hosed off in cold water!
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 04, 2015, 10:48:44 pm
I'll try that, cuckoo, thanks. Going away for a few days tomorrow so it's a job for when we get back.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 10, 2015, 11:06:08 pm
Just got back from holiday and was horrified to find my goat looking almost bald. Not as bad as I first thought as there is new hair coming through but there's a lot of skin showing through still. It seems to be isolated to her rib area and either side of her spine although more seems to be coming out.


My goat sitter said she thought it might be due to the traumatic labour and birth she had six weeks ago. Apart from the hair loss, she seems well, is eating and cudding well and producing copious amounts of milk.


Has anyone else had a goat lose hair after a trauma?
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Anke on August 11, 2015, 06:42:31 am
If her coat is regrowing, the skin is clear and not infected/scabby/red/raw in any way I would just feed her well and watch. Sheep are known to loose their fleece (or have a bad break in it) after stress, even a bad spell of weather (I had to throw out all of my fleeces after the really bad winter in 2011!). If she is generally well and milking well, I would just  watch.

I have treated dry scabby patches this last winter with rubbing in some olive oil (to remove the dead skin) and after a few weeks all was regrown and no trace of where bald patch had been.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 11, 2015, 09:50:44 am
Thank you, Anke. Her skin looks fine although there are a couple of dryish patches so I'll try the olive oil on them. Otherwise I'll just keep an eye on her. It's not affecting my otherr goat so I doubt if it's any sort of lice or mites and I've had a good look for snything like that. Must just be the trauma.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Penninehillbilly on August 11, 2015, 05:25:39 pm
I took on a cade lamb who lost every bit of 'wool', obviously thought of every problem going, but skin was clean and healthy, I searched high'n'low through books, couldn't find anything, then realised she had a fine coating of new growth.
found out they can lose their coat by stress, so maybe that IS what Pom's problem is.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 11, 2015, 11:21:49 pm
I think it must be. Less is coming out now than a few days ago and the skin looks lovely and healthy. She is very well in herself and eating plenty. She didn't eat much for the first couple of weeks after the kidding and I don't suppose that helped her hair.

Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 19, 2015, 11:03:18 pm
I thought you might like an update. Pom's coat is nearly back to normal now and there is hardly any hair coming out when I groom her - just the normal amount. She is also putting on weight nicely whereas she was painfully thin and milking off her back. Nice shape now and much much better in herself.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Penninehillbilly on August 20, 2015, 12:05:31 am
sounds good  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: clydesdaleclopper on August 20, 2015, 12:06:12 pm
That's really good news
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 23, 2015, 01:02:30 am
Thank you. Her coat looks normal now. My only problem is coping with all the milk she's providing me with but I can survive that one.  :goat:
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: clydesdaleclopper on August 23, 2015, 12:20:28 pm
Thank you. Her coat looks normal now. My only problem is coping with all the milk she's providing me with but I can survive that one.  :goat:


Oh your poor soul  :roflanim:
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 24, 2015, 12:01:44 am
Lots of cheese being made.


My biggest problem is resisting drinking loads of milk and eating all the cheese. Why can't I be one of those people who can eat whatever they like and not put on weight?
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Beeducked on August 25, 2015, 08:59:00 pm
Why can't I be one of those people who can eat whatever they like and not put on weight?


I know that feeling!!!


Madde even worse by me discovering how lovely homemade ice cream which also copes with the excess of duck eggs! Keep trying to tell myself its not low fat even if it does come from the garden!


Glad Pom is doing so much better.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: clydesdaleclopper on August 25, 2015, 10:04:03 pm

Madde even worse by me discovering how lovely homemade ice cream which also copes with the excess of duck eggs! Keep trying to tell myself its not low fat even if it does come from the garden!



But fat is NOT your enemy - sugar is. Just make your ice cream with very little sugar and it's fine  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on August 26, 2015, 12:49:23 am
Food is my enemy.  :(


Glad to hear the ducks are laying well again. I love those eggs.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on September 06, 2015, 12:36:41 am
A bit of an update. Pom's coat has come through and she's looking good BUT, despite being a pure Saanen, she now has a small black patch on one shoulder. I thought it was on her skin as she does have a few spots that are usually covered by hair but this is definitely black hair growing and it wasn't there before she lost her coat.


Has anyone else experienced this?
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: JTFarms on September 06, 2015, 06:09:59 am
Rub abigof pure apple cider the kind with the mothers still in it it will moist in the skin and it is a antibacterial aid in its own right
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Anke on September 06, 2015, 06:19:25 am
Well several of my GG girls have some white hair where the horn buds were taken off...., so it is maybe a similar kind of thing? As long as she is well it is probably nothing you should worry about...
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on September 06, 2015, 11:31:43 pm
I'm not worried as she is fit and well. Just intrigued. Having said that, my mother lost patches of her dark grey hair during a time of great stress and it came back white, so I suppose this is the same sort of thing.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on September 06, 2015, 11:33:07 pm
Not sure what you mean by 'mothers', JTF.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: claire on September 07, 2015, 06:52:03 am
cider vinegar with the mother in it... refers to the sediment in the bottom.
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: clydesdaleclopper on September 07, 2015, 09:09:58 am
The mother culture is where the vinegar is unpasteurised. Most vinegar is pasteurised so you have to look for it specifically
Title: Re: Thinning hair.
Post by: Lesley Silvester on September 07, 2015, 11:19:15 pm
Thanks for the info.