The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Community => Introduce yourself => Topic started by: Paula W on July 15, 2015, 10:51:23 am
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Hi,
We have recently bought a farm with a good few acres, and have been approached by someone who knows we moved asking to rent the land. The fences are in patchy condition and a water pipe needs to be laid from our property to the field for water.
There is about 13 acres available and he wants to put some sheep on this year. As his starting bid he suggested £400 for 9 months plus 2 lambs. I think this may be too low, but I appreciate that he will need to put electric fencing up to make it safe.
Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
Paula
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I think that, if you're not going to use the land yourself then £400 and two lambs is a reasonable enough offer. The sheep will keep the grass down for you and fertilise the land as well.
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Especially if the fences aren't great. And two lambs are worth a good bit, when you take into account slaughter and butchery costs (I'm assuming they are lambs for the freezer :) (
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A lot will have to do with the quality of the grazing and where abouts you are Also how many sheep is he wanting to put on the land ???
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If they seem reasonable people who are unlikely to cause you any trouble, I'd say go for it! It'll be worth it just for the learning you get, and you'll get your grass mown and your own home grown lamb for the freezer without any of the hassle or expense that goes with it. What's not to like?
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Sounds good to me, Womble. Providing clear responsibilities, terms etc., are laid down from the start there should be no problems plus the experience and land management the leaser is gaining.
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Thanks everyone, that has been really helpful. I will have another chat with my friend and see what we can agree. :-J
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It's probably fine and good for the land, and I'd rather think the better of people than the worst, but if you wanted to be cautious:
Check they are insured.
Consider if you want them on the ground over winter to prevent it getting poached and give it a change of recovering. Some people also use this as a way of ensuring there's less chance for them to claim grazing/squatters rights. And bear in mind that the longer the tenancy, the more likely they are to want to maintain it.
You may want something about any improvements that can be made, that they need your permission, and if any compensation can be made for this. Do you want the tenant to improve the fencing, can they do it to a suitable standard, and what will they want in return? Can they erect a shelter? Are they expecting the water as part of the deal and a reduction for if it's not there?
If you decide to continue the arrangement, 3 years is the norm for reviews, and it's worth getting a proper tenancy agreement sorted.
Not sure if you claim any BPS for the land, but you want to make sure you keep them rather than them attempting to claim them or do activities that are not allowed (or just don't want). And for any restrictions from any schemes the land is in
They'll need to sort out a temporary CPH number too.
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We rent ten acres of good grazing land with a barn , it has no water on the land it costs us £700 a year
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We were offered £100 per acre for grazing on our land, that's with new fencing. Hope this helps