The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: jameslindsay on February 05, 2010, 11:54:56 am
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I posted last night that 1 of my Pygmy's was unwell and we had called the vet out. Well, he was this morning rushed in to the vets for treatment. Another 3 of my goats are now showing signs if being unwell too, but very early signs. We have discovered that the buggers have broken a fence down and eaten a Laurel Tree and started on another, both trees are now history but as they are a neighbours we had no idea they were there. I am now beside myself with worry.
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oh James, thats dreadful to hear. Goats being goats, and especially at this time of year when they crave anything green, will eat anything.....even something poisonous such as laural. I will keep everything crossed for your goats.
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hope your goats recover mate, sorry to hear about them.
let us know how they get on
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OMG James, I'm so sorry to hear your news. Fingers and toes crossed for your little goats and a big hug to you.
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Oh James, its one thing after another you poor thing. all the best for you & the goats x
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Laurel isn't good, but its not as bad some poisonous plants/trees. Hopefully they will make a full recovery.
Fingers crossed
Beth
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My wee boy, Pierre, died a short time ago.
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so sorry James. big hugs, and best wishes for the other goats xx
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So sorry Pierre did not make it. I really hope your other goats recover ok.
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Oh no James, I'm so sorry to hear that - just try and concentrate your energies on the other poorly goats. Big hug
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James, I'm so sorry to hear. I just pray the others will pull through.
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Thanks folks, today has been the day from hell. We had to have the vet back out a short time ago as I have 3 very poorly goats. The vet has done all they can so time will tell.
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I've seen your goats lots of times, when we've popped in for a meal and they are lovely - i am so sorry & hope the rest recover. i'm sure you'll not sleep much tonight worrying about them all.
(PS we were the folks that came for the 50th birthday meal in september for my husband if you remember)
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Its a long shot but it may work.... Make up v strong black coffee and put in loads of sugar. This can in some cases act as a stimulent against laurel poisoning! I have no idea why it can possibly work but know a few people from the goat world who have found it useful!
Good luck James and fingers crossed!
Val
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Its a long shot but it may work.... Make up v strong black coffee and put in loads of sugar. This can in some cases act as a stimulent against laurel poisoning! I have no idea why it can possibly work but know a few people from the goat world who have found it useful!
Good luck James and fingers crossed!
Val
Thanks Val. We know we have done everything possible to help these animals and now it is the waiting game.We have put some coffee out, everything is worth trying. Out of the 3 that we were worried about last night the GG kid is doing much better this morning - eating, drinking and playing. Her mum and one other is still not eating and very quiet but we have everything crossed that is possible to cross. Trying to run a business at the same time as looking after sick animals is so difficult as you are expected to constantly have a smile on your face and I just can't find a smile just now.
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I've seen your goats lots of times, when we've popped in for a meal and they are lovely - i am so sorry & hope the rest recover. i'm sure you'll not sleep much tonight worrying about them all.
(PS we were the folks that came for the 50th birthday meal in september for my husband if you remember)
Thanks, haven't managed too much sleep in the last 2 nights but you just have to get on with things. I can't remember what happened last week let alone months ago, sorry. Next time you are in you must say hello to me.
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James, I'm so sorry to hear. I just pray the others will pull through.
Beth, Freddy is one of the 2 we are still worried about. Gizmo is unaffected thankfully and is really missing his pal who is normally up to mischief with him all day - every day! He seems bright enough but not eating yet.
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James,put a notice up in the bar - I'm sure everyone will understand why you can't smile just now. Hope they all get better.
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thats awfull sorry to hear that.
best of luck for the rest of your goats ;)
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My thoughts are with you and your goats James. Its a b***ard world sometimes. You are doing brilliantly just to keep working, never mind smiling.
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Hi james, i had the vetout last week as my goats had eaten something? when they got out. Both ended up just laying and very poorly, i fed them shreded sugarbeet with mollasses, soaked over night in plenty of water, they really lked it especially the water that came of it, i also put some mollasses in there water. Happily they are both back to good form and being as happy as before. Hope this helps and good luck.
Rob ;D.
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After another nail biting day things have at last improved. All day we tried to get Freddy and Lottie to eat but to no avail, they both looked tired and lifeless. Lulu by early morning had ate her breakfast and was off playing with the others quite the thing. Then when I went out to feed them at 5pm every single goat came running for their dinner, I just about dropped with shock and relief. Freddy is now bright, sooky and starving so eating as much as he can. Lottie came over and although she didn't eat a huge amount she freely came over and ate some which is a massive improvement.
The vet has been telephoning at several times throughout the day to see if she was required. When she phoned after dinner time she was dleighted to hear the news and told me that last night she had not thought Freddy would make it through the night! So, after 4 days from hell we hopefully have light at the end of the tunnel. I will be more settled once Lottie is eating properly, but little steps is fine.
Thanks for all your kind wishes, I could sleep for a week now. Hoping that tomorrow continues on the high that today has ended.
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Oh thank goodness! I'm very glad to hear that James. Hopefully tomorrow will be a good day for them all.
Beth
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We even tried Freddy on a bottle this morning but he would not have it. On the other hand Gizmo went mental for his and loved every drop. Just to build Freddy up again I will try him with some milk in the morning. Freddy is going about like King Pin at the moment, he is so excited with everything and obviously enjoying feeling better and all the attention. It is so amazing to see how he turned from being so terribly ill back to more like his old self in such a short space of time.
Throughout all the stress and tears yesterday we also got a laugh. Rosie who is a large goat and 14 years old decided to mount Prudence one of my Pigmy's. Well this went on all day, remember Rosie is a million times the size of Prudy, both are obviously in season. Prudence obviously loved the attention as when it came to time for the Pygmy's to go into their own paddock for the night she ran off and stayed at Rosie's side. Eventually I just had to catch her bit as soon as she was in her own paddock she stood at the side of the fence screaming for Rosie. After a day of hell it was so funny to watch.
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You must be so relieved that the goats are improving. Hopefully you will manage a good nights sleep after all the stress you have been through.
I always thought plants had a purpose, i.e. for animals, birds etc to live off, but such a lot of garden plants are poisonous, you do wonder why they are grown. I know non animal owners are not aware of the dangers of their garden plants, and probably do not expect greedy goats to come stealing their plants!!
The owner of the farm where my OH works, has planted laurals all the way round the orchard area. He probably thinks they are attractive, and although they are fenced from the field, I worry constantly that my horses will break through and see the lovely green bushes, and sample them. He is a none animal owner, and will not realise the danger in what he has planted.
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My neighbour is actually gutted. The sad thing is these trees she planted was on our land to screen her house. Neither of us had any idea how dangerous it was nor did we know the goats would "break in" through the fence. I went to tell her that these trees had poisoned my goats and originally she tried to allow her to put a much stronger fence so she could keep her trees but there was no way we could allow that. Nature is strange though.
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I can well imagine your neighbour is gutted. I am sure like you said, she had no idea of the danger of the plants. When you think about it, lots of people keep their goats in a garden, and their neighbours quite often have privet hedges, and rhodedendrums, which are poisonous. So, knowing goats and their ability to escape, I would think these accidents with plants happen a lot.
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Waiting on the vet again. Lottie my GG is not as good as she was yesterday, not eating again and frothing (just a wee bit) at the mouth. She is however drinking and it has to be good that we are now on day 4 from hell and she is still with us. All the others are brilliant, if only we cold see an improvement in Lottie we would all feel a lot better.
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Great to hear that the goats are improving James. lets hope that Lottie follows the good example of the others.
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Glad to hear most are improved, everything is crossed for Lottie.
I showed my O/H the video with Freddy on, he is the spitting image of our little one. So he was very upset to hear of you troubles... I'll go tell him now that Freddy and friend are looking better!
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Little Blue Freddy is doing brilliantly now, I was out all afternoon and him and Gizmo were fighting to sit on my knee - and they are too big for that now, but that doesn't bother them. Lottie ate her dinner and had a green nose so I presume she has been eating bark from a tree which should show she is on the mend - at last! I am for the first time confidant that they are over the worst now, just a great shame we lost Pierre. It has been one of the worst weeks of our lives.
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thats great news.
And just remember that Pierre had a wonderful life with you, full of love and all the things that goats like.
:-*
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Glad to hear that things are looking up for you James. Have a good nights sleep.
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All 12 goats are today back to normal and enjoying life again. Lottie is eating, drinking and playing with all the others so must now be feelink ok. Let's hope we never experience anything like this again.
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Fingers cross you won't James. Nice to hear they are all back to normal :)
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I took this video clip earlier and is shows Freddy and Lottie back to their old selves. Freddy is the BT on the left hand side of the gate with Gizmo on the right. Nearer the end 2 Golden goats come in to sight Rosie is the old dear on the left and Lottie is the smaller of the 2 on the right. All weekend Freddy and Lottie had been at deaths door and in such a short time - well just look at them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VntzfF4mxbI
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lovely! x
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Freddy and Gizmo look fat! Not too fat, but you definitely look after them well. My poor big lad has lost a bit of weight after being away on his holidays.
Beth
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so glad to hear they are all well again! :goat: :goat: :&>
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Good to see the pair of them have bounced back to good health. You have a lovely herd of goats there. I was going to say what a lot there are, but then realised you have not as many as me!!!!
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I only have 12 now Roxy :)