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Livestock => Sheep => Topic started by: FriesianLambs on March 26, 2015, 11:06:33 am

Title: Info on a lamb
Post by: FriesianLambs on March 26, 2015, 11:06:33 am
I saved a lamb yesterday. He was born not breathing and very very small and the farmer threw him on the concrete floor. He gasped and I thought he was alive and went over. They said to leave it, but I saw his chest going up and felt a heart beat. He had slime in his mouth, so I took some out with my fingers, then took him out and swung him couple of times, dried him off with straw and he started coming around and I thought I would give it to his mum to see if she would take him.

The ewe started licking him, but was more busy with the other bigger lamb. I took the small thing home, dried him off properly, gave him a booster. He was making a noise, so under the lamp he went, with 2 hot water bottles to keep him warm.

Started him off on colostrum(about 40 ml every 3 hours) with a tube then yesterday evening he got his first feed of milk. Now, all afternoon, he was bleating, trying to get up sometimes and at one point he even stood for a couple of seconds. Somewhere in the evening the meconium also came off.

I got out of bed at 0300 in the morning and noticed his breathing was laboured and he had some more sticky poo, but he still swallowed the tube and milk down. Gave him another booster this morning because he seemed weaker and he had 2 feeds. I went to change his bedding and found he had died. I picked him up and the milk just ran from his mouth.

He definitely swallowed with the feed before he died.

I am a bit gutted of course, figured this might happen, but still wondering how come he was more alert yesterday afternoon and seemed to weaken overnight. I want to learn from this and I was hoping some of you might give more insight, so that next time I can do it right.
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: ZaktheLad on March 26, 2015, 12:11:45 pm
Sounds like you done all you could. I doubt the farmer throwing him on the concrete floor done much good to him, maybe he broke a rib or two as a result. Well done for trying your best for the little chap  :hug:
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: harmony on March 26, 2015, 12:24:35 pm
You tried but sometimes these things are not meant to be.


I doubt he had broken ribs. Don't forget he's just been delivered. They are fairly robust even at this stage. The jolt on the floor probably made him take that first breathe.  :hug:
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: MrsJ on March 26, 2015, 12:31:21 pm
So sad after all your efforts but some times they are just not meant to survive.  Perhaps his lungs were not fully developed.   :hug:
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: FriesianLambs on March 26, 2015, 01:13:30 pm
Thank you for the kind remarks. Means a lot to me
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: Marches Farmer on March 26, 2015, 01:20:10 pm
The very, very small ones rarely survive, although I personally always give them the benefit of the doubt and my best shot. 
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: FriesianLambs on March 26, 2015, 01:25:07 pm
Me too Marches Farmer. When I saw him gasp and felt that heartbeat, I just had to try. They all deserve a change and the special cases are dear to me.

I have a 6 week and 5 week lamb in the shed who were also special needs and they're jumping around in their pen. That's why I keep going even though sometime I loose one, like little Mini today
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: SallyintNorth on March 26, 2015, 02:30:03 pm
You gave the little one a chance, that's all anyone could expect and more than most would do.  :hug:

This one just wasn't viable, and a lot of the weaklings and runts aren't.  So by all means try, it's very rewarding when the odd one does come right - but if you find yourself getting very upset about the ones that don't, you may need to be a bit more selective about the ones you try to save.  (And some of them will rally and then die after a week or two, which is even more upsetting.)

I always give them a chance if they seem to want to be alive, but I've learned to not force help on the ones that won't help themselves.  And I have to accept that there will still be losses, and they'll hurt. :hug:
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: kelly58 on March 26, 2015, 03:46:16 pm
So sad LC, you did your best  :bouquet:
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: Hellybee on March 26, 2015, 03:46:23 pm
Good on you for trying your best, it's terrible when it happens when others come out wanting to be there and a few others that regardless sof what you do they just aren't meant to be, where there's a little glimmer of life  you have to try, and don't beat yourself up you did your very best  :bouquet:
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: FriesianLambs on March 27, 2015, 06:53:27 am
I'm really glad reading your replies.

I'm still beating myself over it, because my husband went to a friend of ours, who owns a flock and who we help with his sheep and he said I went from colostrum to milk too soon and overfed the little guy....

Because when I was feeding the colostrum, the lamb seemed to get better and when I went to milk he seemed to get worse again.

I don't understand, because I always feed like that...
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: devonlady on March 27, 2015, 07:53:44 am
It is sad when all your efforts fail Comfort yourself with the thought that you did your best :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: Bramblecot on March 27, 2015, 07:40:27 pm
You can't win them all but don't give up trying :hug: .  Sometimes in losing something we learn a lesson, so it is not all in vain.
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: FriesianLambs on March 27, 2015, 08:53:18 pm
Thank you all. I thought about quitting, just not take in bummer lambs anymore, but I can't quit. Then those little guys/girls don't have a chance. And I absolutely love the feeling when one does pull through.
Thank you for the kind words  :hug:
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: debbigord on March 27, 2015, 10:08:59 pm
I know that feeling when it doesn't work out and you go over and over it to find ways to beat yourself up. Be kind to yourself, you did all that could be done, sometimes it just isn't meant to be. At least the little one was warm, fed and cared for and was made comfy. Well done you x
Title: Re: Info on a lamb
Post by: Hellybee on March 28, 2015, 01:50:20 pm
I don't think you started on milk too early doll, some say carry on for a few days , some say go to milk, I tend to if they're a bit weaker I put a bit of colostrum in milk, but very rarely.  I do think that one lamb can be to date in a ewe from first raddle mark, she couldtake for the second so called twin later, so then ou could have one spot on lamb and one that s come out and not quite cooked yet, if that makes any sense at all.  This little lamb probably was a little underdeveloped, lungs not strong enough.  Not enough body fat.  Keep going, it won't always be like this. Xx