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Livestock => Goats => Topic started by: Jaymac76 on February 24, 2015, 12:17:30 pm

Title: Fresh goats milk
Post by: Jaymac76 on February 24, 2015, 12:17:30 pm
Hi, I am looking for some fresh goats milk as I would like to try and make some cheese and butter, i am in West Lothian Scotland.

Cheers
Title: Re: Fresh goats milk
Post by: ballingall on February 24, 2015, 01:01:54 pm
Hi,
 
We are located just outside West Lothian, and my sister is located in West Lothian, and we both keep dairy goats.
 
However- it is illegal to sell unpasturised milk in Scotland.
 
"Food Hygiene (Scotland) Regulations 2006 N0.3 which came into force on 11 January 2006 and state that : ‘No person shall place on the market raw milk, or raw cream, intended for direct human consumption’. This extends the ban to include sheep, goats, buffalo and any other species farmed for its milk."
 
So, then we could look at selling pasturised milk, but I believe the regulations for this are very stringent, which neither ourselves nor my sister is set up for.
 
At present we dont have any spare milk in any case- my sister is currently selling her spare milk to a pet shop for consumption for dogs (this is legal). And all of our adult goats are currently pregnant, but are due at the beginning of March, so we may have some spare milk, but it will not be until later in March.
 
You may be able to source some from England, as there are companies which ship milk I believe, and they have different regulations!
 
I will drop you a pm as well.
 
Beth
Title: Re: Fresh goats milk
Post by: Jaymac76 on February 24, 2015, 04:29:09 pm
Hi, thanks for getting back to me, please keep me in mind if you have any spare milk and pm me I will give you my mobile number.

Cheers
Title: Re: Fresh goats milk
Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 24, 2015, 08:46:25 pm
In England it is illegal to sell unpasteurised milk for human consumption. When I used to sell it, I did tell the buyers that it was for animal consumption. What they then chose to do with it was up to them.
Title: Re: Fresh goats milk
Post by: fiestyredhead331 on February 25, 2015, 12:20:14 am
same here, we can't sell unpasteurised milk so thinking about investing on one this year when our milking starts in earnest
Title: Re: Fresh goats milk
Post by: clydesdaleclopper on February 25, 2015, 12:27:19 pm
In England it is illegal to sell unpasteurised milk for human consumption. When I used to sell it, I did tell the buyers that it was for animal consumption. What they then chose to do with it was up to them.


In England unpasteurised milk can be sold for human consumption as long as it is direct from farm to consumer. In Scotland it can only be sold for animal consumption.
Title: Re: Fresh goats milk
Post by: Beeducked on February 25, 2015, 02:01:45 pm
Although it is a bit more complicated than that as to sell raw milk (legally) you must be on a licsenced premises, they must be inspected twice a year and your animals must be tested quarterly together with a whole load of other restrictions:


This is the official party line for England and Wales taken from the government website
http://www.food.gov.uk/business-industry/farmingfood/dairy-guidance/rawmilkcream: (http://www.food.gov.uk/business-industry/farmingfood/dairy-guidance/rawmilkcream:)


I only sell my milk to those who tell me it is for their pets, at the moment it is feeding my neighbours cade lambs so actually true!



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Title: Re: Fresh goats milk
Post by: Lesley Silvester on February 26, 2015, 03:05:39 am
And I knew of a farmer who was done for selling milk to people, knowing it was for human consumption, even though he had marked it 'For animal consumption only.'
Title: Re: Fresh goats milk
Post by: Jaymac76 on February 26, 2015, 05:22:03 pm
Well I don't think I will be getting my fresh goats milk, what if I said it was for ma dug would it help. I only wanted to try a small amount to see if I liked it then I would consider keeping a couple of goats. I don't want to buy the milk from the supermarket as I don't think it would be the same as the fresh milk.
Cheers for all the information.
Title: Re: Fresh goats milk
Post by: Caz2015 on May 01, 2015, 09:59:03 pm
I stay near Lanark, just wondering what kind if goats you have? My dogs love goats milk!! X