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Smallholding => Buildings & planning => Topic started by: JEP on February 01, 2015, 05:52:50 pm

Title: how big
Post by: JEP on February 01, 2015, 05:52:50 pm
we have 7.5 ace field
we are going to do a building for 3 tractors & hay making implements
how big would you make it
Title: Re: how big
Post by: Womble on February 01, 2015, 08:31:45 pm
Twice the size you think you need, with room to extend later!  ;D
Title: Re: how big
Post by: YoungRasher on February 02, 2015, 09:27:44 am
Try and rent some extra land so you have enough to do it under permitted development. no need for planning permission just pay the £70 fee and send in the form.
Title: Re: how big
Post by: oor wullie on February 02, 2015, 01:05:12 pm
To put some numbers on it, my 12x6 shed is not big enough.  I have just built another one (smaller) and have plans for another 2 after that!
You could probably budget on about 10m2 per tractor / implement and then double it to give enough working space.
Also consider where you are going to store all that hay you will make.  I found a dozen round bales of hay seemed to fill the entire shed and then had a problem with what I was going to do with the other 2 dozen!
Title: Re: how big
Post by: JEP on February 04, 2015, 09:32:37 pm
we were also thinking about the hight
i was thinking of 20 ft high and put a floor above so as to double up
Title: Re: how big
Post by: mart6 on February 05, 2015, 08:22:09 pm
Sounds a good idea but i would not mention a second floor to the council.
In a similar position myself, i would follow advise and go 3x what you think you need as it will soon get used.
Agree re 12.5 acre thing (gives you option to have anything up to 4500 sqfeet i believe) save you some hassle, some councils like dragging things out if they can
Title: Re: how big
Post by: JEP on February 08, 2015, 04:28:01 pm
the council will only except the 12.5 acre if all together
Title: Re: how big
Post by: stufe35 on February 08, 2015, 04:40:37 pm
You don't need to worry about permitted development. Agricultural planning is only about £80.  I just applied for and got a building on our place , it's ten acres, I've gone for 60 x 30 because it's a standard size the shed builders use, easy to get competitive quotes, in fact there's a bloke posts on ebay and breaks down all the costs in his advert so you can work it out.

As for size, measure the area your equipment will take..easy,  calculate the volume of the bales you intend to store...don't forget you might do 2 cuts or store some for more than a year.

20ft high sounds quite high...how high does your loader lift ?  Are you on rounds ?

All stuff to think about.

Apply big, you can always let the council think they've won by coming down in size, and you don't have to build it all at once or at all.  Put up 2 bays now, add others as you can afford it, once planning is in place it lasts forever (so long as you've made a start)
Title: Re: how big
Post by: mart6 on February 08, 2015, 05:45:09 pm
the council will only except the 12.5 acre if all together
It does not have to be in one parcel as long as its in a 5 mile radius, it can even be part rented but they insist on a 7 year agreement i believe.