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Livestock => Other => Topic started by: Pundyburn Lynn on January 23, 2015, 02:42:04 pm

Title: Fish
Post by: Pundyburn Lynn on January 23, 2015, 02:42:04 pm
Anyone got edible fish in their pond?  If so, what kind do you keep?  And can you recommend a good sourc e of information abotu how to keep them...
 
Thanks,
Lynn
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: clydesdaleclopper on January 23, 2015, 04:37:14 pm
I haven't but I've got plans  ;D . I have found this book useful : Small scale aquaculture by Van Gorder
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Pundyburn Lynn on January 24, 2015, 11:12:40 pm
Many thanks clydesdaleclopper!

Title: Re: Fish
Post by: artscott on January 25, 2015, 12:13:36 am
I used to keep common carp (to eat) together with some koi (for looking at), It was a big pond 8000gal but they will keep in much smaller ones.  Unless you have water running through your land or have a very low stocking rate you will need to really look into filters, they make all the difference when keeping any fish.
I was reading some really interesting stuff on Aquaponics (farming fish and filtering the water through a bed to grow edible plants).  I think it’s a pretty spectacular idea, once I’ve done the 101 other things on my list I’m going to have a crack at designing a system.  Lots of information on the internet and some stuff here http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/ (http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/)
As far as fish are concerned I think you are restricted to carp or trout in the UK, you could try perch which are good eating fish but I don’t think they grow too fast or that big.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: clydesdaleclopper on January 25, 2015, 12:07:58 pm
Artscott if you want to borrow my aquaculture book it shows how to make your own system.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: artscott on January 26, 2015, 12:15:31 pm
Thanks, I would love to borrow it, but have so much other stuff to do before I can think about that.  I haven't even manage to get the poly tunnel up yet that I got last year.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: clydesdaleclopper on January 26, 2015, 01:15:29 pm
I put a post on the Roundhouse suggesting a book day where we could meet up and get a look at everyone's favorites. If you would be interested pop a reply on there :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Beeducked on January 27, 2015, 08:34:28 pm
Was thinking of asking a very similar question. We have a relatively large (I think) pond  but it is pretty murky and in summer has a lot of duck weed on it. We have lots of insects, damsel and dragonflies etc and a couple of moorhens that moved in last year and nested. Is there a guide to telling whether the water quality is good enough to support fish or do I just bung some carp in and if they float then it's not!?
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: adamhfc on January 27, 2015, 11:24:17 pm
Never done it my self but do know of a guy that sells pike carp and trout along with other species and can deliver as well
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Clansman on August 26, 2015, 03:58:58 am
I don't have a pond but I keep rainbow trout in two large tanks to eat.

I usually get 100 at a time, 50 during the really  warm weather.

I buy them in small and eat them as they grow then restock
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: cloddopper on August 26, 2015, 11:23:32 pm
Do you have a fresh stream water supply & out flow for the tanks or do you pump, filter,  and adjust ?

 I've got a beady eye on the biggest Koi in our pumped & filtered pond  ( with plants ) it wont be long before it's 450 mm long . :yum:

 This year has seen an explosion of fry and plenty from last year also carried through many of last years spawning are nearly 55 mm long.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Clansman on August 27, 2015, 07:33:28 am
Both tanks are mains fed with no filters although I have two pump heads running to help aereate the water.

I have a small inlet nozzle  just above the surface which aerates the water and an overflow which takes water from the bottom of the tank at the  opposite end out into the garden.

Bare tank system to help keep it clean.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: cloddopper on August 27, 2015, 11:12:54 pm
That's interesting are you chlorine free in your mains water  , if not how long do you let the water stand aireating before introducing your fish ?

 When I lived in Southern Germany the local restaurant owner had fresh piped mountain stream water continually passing through his table fish tanks and then into & out of his main holding tanks /small fish farming area  that were 15 mtrs or more across .


Do you change 1/3 of the tank's water every 10 days or so , to dilute the pollutants produced from the fishes  decaying waste matter  ?

 Do you net the fish or go fishing for them with hook and bait or a  fly ? 
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Clansman on August 28, 2015, 08:44:38 am
Nope direct from the mains so it does have chlorine in it.

I run the water into it every evening so its virtually fresh water every day

I net them, the tanks are only around 3 feet deep and hold roughly 1000 litres, same as an IBC
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: cloddopper on August 29, 2015, 01:33:56 pm
Thanks ,
Do you fancy running a thread  telling us all a lot more .
It's an area many folks could benefit from with someone who has hands on knowledge giving a run through.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Clansman on August 29, 2015, 03:42:13 pm
Yep, going to do it on Monday when I get back on a computer.

I've got quite a detailed thread on another forum, I'll just copy and paste it over.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: oor wullie on August 29, 2015, 07:11:32 pm
That has me interested.  I am looking forward to seeing your thread.
Title: Re: Fish
Post by: Clansman on August 31, 2015, 02:14:09 pm
http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=65672.0 (http://www.accidentalsmallholder.net/forum/index.php?topic=65672.0)