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Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: Bramham Wiltshire Horns on December 28, 2014, 06:39:05 pm

Title: Chip fat
Post by: Bramham Wiltshire Horns on December 28, 2014, 06:39:05 pm
I've just made some home made chips for tea and changed the vegetable oil
Question is would it be suitable to mix in with some of the chicken food to help with a bit of fat to keep them warm over winter also thought it could help with there crop etc

Thanks
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: HesterF on December 28, 2014, 09:04:49 pm
Personally I wouldn't - much as I'm deeply sceptical of any medical advice to add pure fat to a baby's diet to build up their weight - it just seems to me as if adding pure fat to a diet to give them weight/energy is not the right way to do it. In nature they wouldn't be eating pure fat but foraging for carbohydrate and protein which would give them the energy they need. I tend to give them more mixed corn at this time of year. I don't think they need oil for their crops unless something has gone wrong.

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Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: devonlady on December 29, 2014, 08:32:34 am
A few live mealworms give them all the fat they need. My twin runs his car on used cooking oil.
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: Bramham Wiltshire Horns on December 29, 2014, 11:20:00 am
Thanks for the advice I won't put it in
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: landroverroy on December 29, 2014, 03:12:17 pm
 Just seen this PRK, and I would say the opposite!
It's common to give birds added fat in their diet in winter to help them keep warm. I regularly give my poultry the fat from chops and sausages etc that I've grilled. I add it to their mash and they love it.
You're not talking about feeding it all at once (presumably!) in one great globule, and even if you did it wouldn't hurt them. What about all the fat balls that are sold for wild birds?
 
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: nutterly_uts on December 29, 2014, 03:20:42 pm
I'd be a bit leary of fat used for deep fat frying - its cooked to a high temperature which isn't good for a lot of fats. Bits of bacon yes def :)
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: Bramham Wiltshire Horns on December 29, 2014, 04:13:51 pm
I was thinking of just adding a little bit at a time into there usual feed not all at once
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: shygirl on December 29, 2014, 04:35:23 pm
we add oil to different species diet if they need to gain weight and are already feeding adlib. oil is a source of A D E K vitamins.
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: landroverroy on December 29, 2014, 05:36:09 pm
I'd be a bit leary of fat used for deep fat frying - its cooked to a high temperature which isn't good for a lot of fats. Bits of bacon yes def :)
If it's good enough for us to fry our food in, then it's hardly going to harm anything else!
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: FiB on December 29, 2014, 06:20:46 pm
It's a great idea, thanks! I'll be mixing a cupful through a bin of mixed grains next time I empty the chip pan. I am so excited to have rediscovered the joys of the chip pan after many years absence. No more oven chips, ever again :-)
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: lord flynn on December 29, 2014, 07:42:28 pm
is it still illegal to feed chickens kitchen scraps?
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: Stereo on December 29, 2014, 08:31:21 pm
Yes, I believe it is, even pet ones as they still classed as livestock.  Of course, none of us would ever do it so it's not a problem. Unfortunately it's a law designed to protect us from an industrial problem but ends up with a lot of wasted food which would mean healthier hens and better eggs. It's like the cabbage dish we made for Xmas dinner which turned out to be less than inspiring.  I wouldn't have dreamt of giving it a sneaky bung into the chicken run.  I'm sure they wouldn't have liked it anyway.
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: lord flynn on December 29, 2014, 09:21:54 pm
not saying its wrong or right, just sayin' as so many people are not aware.


although I don't actually believe feeding animals (dogs or chooks for that matter) crap from the kitchen (which used fat is IMHO)  is 'better' for them.
Title: Re: Chip fat
Post by: Stereo on December 29, 2014, 11:47:31 pm
I would agree with that. I suppose, if you were to discuss it theoretically, you might say that you would be better observing the law if you were selling your eggs to others but if you just had a garden flock which provided your own eggs then practically, at least, the potential danger of feeding fresh veg peelings and the odd burger would be limited to your own family. 2 different scenarios but of course, the same law which we all abide by, all of the time.