The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Smallholding => Buildings & planning => Topic started by: SmallWelshBarn on December 20, 2014, 08:01:04 pm
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We applied for planning permission for a small open fronted hay barn footprint measuring approximately 11.8m x 4.6m and would have a pitched roof that would measure 2.15m at the eaves and 3.3m to the ridge and a 20x60 school for the horses. The whole thing went smoothly only took two months ;-) We are located in an area of AONB with a famous footpath running along the side of the proposed area.
The only exceptions are no external lights on the school and the barn must have a metal roof ;-( I wanted slate !
We did the plans our self avoided architects fees. Mind you we did get stung having to do a ecology report which was a waste of time frankly ;-)
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Well done! On getting your permission, and having the foresight to do it yourself! :excited:
I had to spend heaps on arboricultural reports and surveys because some eejit at the council slapped TPOs on 4 trees on my plot. The outline planning permission also made stipulations that the trees had to be protected by fencing both during and after build, so it's still not sold. Last week a neighbour contacted me to say they'd had a letter that the TPOs were being revoked - not a word to the owner! And no right of recompense for the £1500 in architects and tree expert fees.
And because of the time of year and planning committee meetings they can't look at revising the planning consent till March! So I still cant's sell it! And it's such a shame because it's a beautiful wee hamlet of only 7 houses.
So you've done well!
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TPOs are pretty important. They exist for a reason, PITA or not. Pity the process is not slicker.
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It was only recently that I discovered that any idiot at large can fill out the forms for a TPO and not have to have any connection with the land it stands on or financial accountability for their actions.
Here in Wales every sodding oak tree over something like five metres tall is government protected no matter how daft placed or dangerous it is.
Getting the TPO revoked is a very expensive action so is getting it examined & pruned for safety or to open the crown up . :o
:tree: My builder told us that one of the three oaks we have at the bottom of the property is hollow & rotten ( he used a ladder to reach up it to tie off a rope high up and discovered it .
:idea: All contributions to fund the tree removal will be gratefully and thankfully received . :roflanim:
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We applied for planning permission for a small open fronted hay barn footprint measuring approximately 11.8m x 4.6m and would have a pitched roof that would measure 2.15m at the eaves and 3.3m to the ridge and a 20x60 school for the horses. The whole thing went smoothly only took two months ;-) We are located in an area of AONB with a famous footpath running along the side of the proposed area.
The only exceptions are no external lights on the school and the barn must have a metal roof ;-( I wanted slate !
We did the plans our self avoided architects fees. Mind you we did get stung having to do a ecology report which was a waste of time frankly ;-)
Put your winter lighting on frame on a small ballasted trailer and move it around as need so make sure you have plenty of plug in points .
These new super bright massive LRD flood lights are fantastic . I've just purchased 1x 10 watt & 1 x 20 watt . white lights ..
Judging by the light output of mine , I'd say that the bigger 50 watt LED floods will be something really good and they only use a fraction of the power of a strip light or an incandescent filament light unit .
Another big plus for them is that they have a tremendously long life and are quite good at taking knocks & vibrations
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I made the mistake of mentioning an envisaged occasional animal use on an application for a barn under Class A permitted development rules (land holding over 5 ha). If the site is situated within 400 metres of an unconnected dwelling you can't get it as permitted development. Big mistake as livestock buildings within this 400 metre range require a full consent. I imagine this brings most smallholdings, In England anyway, within range of planners and their regulations. As for inconveniently situated trees, bearing in mind Cloddopper's comment above, the solution is to clear any trees or overhanging branches first before anyone gets a sniff of a planning application. That way there's no debate.
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you can check the local authorities Tree Preservation Orders register on-line these days .
Obviously don't use you own name & address if the enquiry asks for one unless you like creating possible problems for yourself in the future