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Title: fox problem
Post by: Carol Knights on January 01, 2010, 10:41:14 am
I have had a fox visiting my farm for some time ( hasn't everyone) it was ok while it was just passing through as the chickens are well fenced and the alpacas protected the sheep/lambs. But now the damn thing has moved in. It has started using the straw stack in the barn as it's sleeping area and when I disturbed it the other week it ran off and the Lab went berserk but worse happened, the dog picked up fox mite while sniffing around where the fox had been and that set off an allergic reaction - wet eczema. Lots of visits to the vet and much expense later the dog is better but I've got to stop this B... fox. I have ordered a 5' fox trap ( tread plate type)  but I have read that it's really difficult to catch the damn things.
Please, please has anyone has any tips that could help me catch it!!   :)
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: HappyHippy on January 01, 2010, 10:49:53 am
I'd personally shoot the bl**dy thing !  :o
Once you trap it you'll have to drive MILES to release it or it'll come right back to your barn. And wherever you release it will then have the problem of an extra fox to deal with - maybe someone who's chooks aren't as well protected ?
But to try and catch it I'd go for disguising the trap, maybe put some hay over it - leaving the entrance way clear and fill it with some raw meat to try and tempt it in.
Good luck  ;)
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: ukag0972 on January 01, 2010, 11:01:51 am
SHOOT IT!!!
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: doganjo on January 01, 2010, 01:32:24 pm
And if you don't have a gun contact the nearest farmer who will be happy to help as he might be next on the visiting list of Mr Fox.
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: clumbaboy on January 01, 2010, 01:33:46 pm
 Agree completely, high speed lead injection, no point trapping it and moving it on. have you anybody locally who could do it for you
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: Carol Knights on January 01, 2010, 07:04:18 pm
I wasn't going to release it ( which is, in any case, illegal)- I hate foxes as much as the next farmer-  but my husband only has a 12 bore which would blow the trap to bits so I was going to take the fox and the trap to a local farmer who has the appropriate firearm to kill it. BUT first I have to catch the b**** thing!
So what sort of bait is irresistible to Charlie? I thought of collecting some road kill to 'seed' the area for a few days before I actually bait the trap  but would road kill be good enough for the trap or would some fishy tinned cat food be better?
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: digit on January 01, 2010, 07:33:51 pm
Dont waste your money on a trap,i'd sit and wait for it to show itself and shoot it with a heavy load 12 gauge shot.
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: CameronS on January 01, 2010, 08:26:34 pm
**!!BANG!!** and the fox is gone  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: ScotsGirl on January 01, 2010, 09:37:23 pm
You must have a local shoot syndicate or gamekeeper?  They will be more than willing to come and kill it for you.  Not sure if actually legal but our local keeper puts a wire down (attached to something very heavy) if he can see its track but you have to make sure nothing else domestic is going to get caught in it.  A dead rabbit will be enough to entice it.  Good luck!
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: redtail on January 02, 2010, 06:01:11 pm
lots of excellent advice.  Shooting is fine if you have a clear line of sight and a safe area behind the fox.  Traps work very well although sometimes you have to persist but this weather has them out all day foraging and a road kill rabbit or pheasant is a good draw.  A 12g shotgun, even at close range, will not destroy the trap unless you are using something like BB load.

My hound caught and lost one yesterday and caught and killed one today.
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: Carol Knights on January 02, 2010, 07:04:21 pm
Thank you everyone. I will keep trying. My husband, despite enticements, is unwilling to forsake his comfy chair or warm bed to sit in wait for the fox, although he seems pretty happy to go off for a day's pheasant shooting.  I am a rotten shot being right handed and left eye dominant. Perhaps I should be looking for a younger helper ;) The trap should arrive early next week so the campagne will start in earnest then.
I will get the B*****!
I'll let you know if I win. ;D
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: daniellestocks on January 02, 2010, 10:58:32 pm
get some terriers in to bolt the bugger then bang!! ;D
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: redtail on January 09, 2010, 04:56:43 pm
Since our recent fall of snow there is clear evidence that a fox is visiting every one of my pens and mews.  It has tried quite hard to break into my little black fantails and my hens are very nervous.   It had a look at my male Red-tailed hawk who hates dogs with a passion so a fox is grist to his mill.  You could see where the fox took of in some haste when the old-tail jumped at him in full threat mode.

For the past few nights I have established a feeding station putting out a handful of dead day old chicks.  My trap is out on loan at present but when I get it back foxy(s) should be waiting in line............Bang!  What a pity there is no market for skins.
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: CarraghsBorderCollies on January 09, 2010, 06:48:27 pm
i have a lurcher who would love to tackle your fox! shame you are so far away! gemx
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: redtail on January 15, 2010, 01:51:47 pm
Since my last post (9th Jan) on the subject of foxes things have been happening!

I set my trap on the evening of the 10th and on 11th there was a vixen.  She was dispatched by a friend with a licenced firearm
Night of 11th reset trap.  Morning of 12th  Another fox - dog this time.  Bang!  13th no fox.
14th  Another vixen. Bang! 

No wonder my poultry and pigeons are jumpy.   The damn things are lining up.  The snow is going fast now so maybe they will find food elsewhere but just in case I  will keep the trap going.  Bait -- Having had a couple of days ferreting I am using rabbit guts.   The dog fox was calm enough to have eaten the bait - I calmed him even further!

Does anyone have a recipe for tanning rabbits skins and- or a tannery which will accept them  I used to have my Rex rabbit skins professionally tanned but that was a long time ago and I have no idea where.  So far this winter I have taken 200 plus rabbits and binned all the skins which seems a terrible waste.

Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: MiriMaran on January 15, 2010, 02:30:14 pm
Wow talk about a success with your trap.  Every time it snows here the following day there are always a single set of fox prints that does a circuit of each of my 3 sheds before wandering off up the hill.  Thankd Goodness I haven't forgotten the shut the chickens in!

Well done to you and i hope things calm down for you.
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: redtail on January 15, 2010, 11:39:16 pm
Wow talk about a success with your trap.  Every time it snows here the following day there are always a single set of fox prints that does a circuit of each of my 3 sheds before wandering off up the hill. 

Foxes, as I am sure you know, are creatures of habit - but if one is taken out another quickly moves in.  So I am not sure if I am pleased or horrified.  I live in the centre of town and the fox population is both huge and bold and hunts by day and by night.  I just wonder how many more are coming round.  My next move is to put an electric fence around the area when my stock are.  I have 6ft larch lap fences all round and have already cleared it with my neighbours. Have just had a look round 11pm, the snow has gone during the evening so no tracks but the trap reeks of fox so maybe I'll get another.
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: langdon on February 01, 2010, 07:07:40 pm
i have one but me wife wont let me get one(can u guess?)
yep a gun, she to scared of a gun with two little kids in the house.
i van her point,if i was allowed that would be my way of getting rid of them.
shep our sheep :dog: is on night watch!!! do hear him bark at times.
hope your  :dog: gets better and you get rid of that flipping fox.
good luck let me know how you get on. ;) :pig: :cat: :chook: :dog: :goat:
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: CarraghsBorderCollies on April 07, 2010, 01:19:36 pm
http://www.hifreeads.ie/pet-fox-for-sale-18777.html

utter madness!
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: MiriMaran on April 07, 2010, 08:51:44 pm
Not my choise of pet!
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: Helencus on April 07, 2010, 09:12:39 pm
Only good fox is dead en..
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: jembo on April 12, 2010, 09:08:13 am
Re the tanning of rabbit skins. I use Alum and it works really well. I then use neatsfoot oil on the leather to make them softer. It is quite hard to get Alum now as you used to be able to get it from the chemist, but not any longer. A tanning supplies shop online will be able to send you some.
With three lurchers, you can imagine we get a lot of skins!!!
Title: Re: fox problem
Post by: doganjo on April 12, 2010, 09:11:10 am
I just use salt.  The skins are wrapped round dummies form training retrieves and I find the salt deters chewing.