The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Pets & Working Animals => Horses, ponies, donkeys & mules => Topic started by: sabrina on September 21, 2014, 08:30:35 pm
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Meet Dolly, the new member of our equine family. 4 year old Welsh section C cross cob. 13.2hh. A winter project. As yet unbroken. After looking around for a purebred and finding nothing that would suit us I saw Dolly for sale on facebook not that far away. She arrived on Thursday and as settled in very well. Granddaughters here for the long weekend and are very taken with the new girl. I keep singing Hello Dolly though !
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Very smart!
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Nice :thumbsup:
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Lovely! You can't beat a coloured cob, we have two and they are diamonds :thumbsup:
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Lovely :thumbsup:
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A bit of a diva though. Been used to getting her own way I think. The girls have been grooming her and yesterday I tried on a breaking roller to see if it would fit her. She was getting fed up. I started cleaning out her feet which I have done every day. Was having none of it and managed to kick my hand when I picked up her near hind. In an instant I smacked her back and she was very shocked. Had a right carry on to herself. The girls were sitting on the straw at a safe distance while I made it quite clear to Dolly that she was going no where until I had cleaned out her feet. In the end she stood and the job was done, Chloe put her back in the paddock and Dolly stood tossing her head about as if to tell me what she thought. No hard feelings this morning though, caught and checked over first thing stood like butter wouldn't melt. Interesting times ahead I think.
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lovely :horse:
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Things with Dolly have been interesting to say the least. She has a lot of issues. first being her head, hated even getting her headcaller on but I have over come that. The bridle. This I can now get over her ears without much fuss but getting a bit in her mouth is a no no. She will throw herself about rather than have it. I bought a fine rubber one thinking maybe she did not like the metal but no difference. She also can be quite scary to look at when passing her stable. Ears flat back as if she is going to fly at you. So far I can read her body language but not letting the girls go near her when I am not around. I have tried asking the old owner what her problems are but all I got was we thought she was over all that. As long as I stay positive when around her she will let me rug her, groom and clean out her feet. As the paddocks are so wet she has had no outside work for a while just out during the day and in at night with the others. My gut tells me she has been badly used at some point. As I have used a Dr Cook bitless bridle on a horse years ago who could not be ridden in a bit I think this may work for her. I have also just started her on steady up to see if this will help. I have had her lunging in a roller before all this rain and she went well, too well considering it was the first time or so I was told. the girls have lain over her back while I held her and she was fine. anyone any imput that may help.
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We had similar problems with our young cob, he'd been treated very roughly in the past and had issues because of it.
Have you tried smearing molasses or similar on the bit? Might help her to accept it..... We also kept the head collar round his neck but didn't tie the rope to anything as he used to back up, panic and rear. Just had someone walking backwards with him. Also a very sticky, minty molasses lick did wonders :thumbsup:
We had problems with getting a bridle on, picking up feet, putting on rugs and standing to be mounted. It just took time, patience and Positive but not rough handling. 18 months on and he is an absolute star, he has the odd moment when in a new situation but my daughter can now sit on a milk crate by his back legs while brushing his feathers. You can put his rugs on and off in the field and almost always stands to be mounted.
Hopefully with time and regular handling she'll come good, we had some moments with our lad when I thought he'd never improve but the change in him is truly amazing and we all love him dearly ( even my anti horse husband)
Just a thought....have you had her teeth checked? Might account for the biting problem
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I did try putting stuff on the bit but still no go. I doubt very much if the dentist would get near her. She has no problems eating that I have seen but getting her teeth checked would be a good idea. she would have to be sedated. I have been working on gaining her trust first. I have worked on a good few screwed up horses over the years so its nothing new, its just trying to work out how much is fear and off what or is she trying it on. We have Toto who will be 3 in the Spring. He came as a weaned foal and nothing bad has happened in his life so he is so trusting and willing to be with you. Makes me feel quite sad for Dolly. I will give her all the time she needs. I think maybe the old owners tried to break her and got it all wrong or she has been badly treated when in a stable. One of the things she does is toss her head at me when I pass her stable. I have tried talking or not talking to her but no difference. She is first at the gate every night now so things are moving on.
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Theses welshies (even to she's a cross) can take some time for they're brain and body to meet int middle. Give her time I'm sure she will give her your all. If she were mine I would turn her away for a while, maybe practicing some join up work in the field, she sounds like she s yes a diva but also has some underlying fears and there fore giving out mixed messages.
She's lovely by the way, cracking laid back shoulder, very pretty x
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How is she getting on?
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Well I had the vet out to check her mouth. She had to be sedated. I had a chat with the vet and made it clear that if there was any chance of Dolly throwing herself about to leave her. We had a lady vet who listened to all I said and took her time. She did manage to look in her mouth, not much wrong but did rasp a couple of ruff edges. The vet thought the same as me, being most of Dolly's problems are in her head. I work with her most days, a bit of grooming, cleaning out her feet this has improved a lot, no longer kicks out when I try to do the back ones. She still made a fuss everytime I tried to put her bridle on so I came up with a plan. I put a piece of apple in the palm of my hand with the bit. So far this has worked twice. I made a big fuss of her. Wither she will do it gain I will have to see. I stay positive around her, use my voice if I am not pleased when she threatens me so bit by bit she is getting better. A long slow job but I am sure we will have a cracking pony one day.
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Have you heard of "confidence-eq"? Its similar to dap & feliway for dogs & cats. A pheromone thats produced by the mare to reassure foals. Its been out a few months in the UK and seems to give very good results in stressful situations or learning new things eg travelling, farrier etc. Several clients are using it with fairly unhandled youngsters. You just rub the gel on the nostril and wait 30 minutes. Maybe worth a try with Dolly?
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Do I get this through my vet ?
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Confidence-Sachets-Horse-Appeasing-Pheromone/dp/B00OK4KY6M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418338885&sr=8-1&keywords=confidence-eq (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Confidence-Sachets-Horse-Appeasing-Pheromone/dp/B00OK4KY6M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418338885&sr=8-1&keywords=confidence-eq)
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Think it will be cheaper than that from your vet! They will probably sell individual sachets too so you can get a couple rather than a boxful.
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so happy to see an equine pheromone at last! ;D I hope it works as well as sedation for clipping etc to stop so many horses needing sedation all the time for everything!
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I have put Dolly on Steady-Up. One of my friends has been using this on her SJ over the summer as he gets stressed at shows if he has to hang about too long. I give it to her in the evening feed and what a difference. she now lies down overnight. She has issues about me going into her stable and can challenge me with feet or teeth. I let her off with this for a wee while but now I go straight in using a raised voice and ask her what she is playing at. Then put on her headcaller and give her a scratch. She will now open her mouth so I can get her bridle on. I started having a piece of apple in my hand with the bit and this worked a treat. Feet problem seem to be over, no longer kicking. I have given myself 2 years to turn her into a good riding pony but I think will be more suited to a small adult as she is so strong willed. She will let me lean over her back, sometimes I give a little jump from the box on. I am too heavy to sit on her but I can bang her sides and rump and she just stands there. In the paddock she will follow me about as I am pooper picking, no nasty faces just happy to be around me. First at the gate when its time to come in. One thing that will never change I expect, do not go near her when she is eating her feed !
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Sounds like you are making real progress well done you must be really pleased. :thumbsup:
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I am pleased but its a slow job.
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Welsh ponies!! What more needs saying! So intelligent, so feisty, such little demons! Ive had a few, the last being a Section C mare that my little girl learned to ride on. When I say "learned to ride on" I mean the HARD WAY!! At home she would drop her shoulder and tip my daughter off 3/4 times a ride. At shows she strutted her stuff every time and won everything!
One day she threw my daughter so many times that she was badly winded. I saw red Im afraid. I said " somebody get my saddle" >:( I changed saddles on the pony and for the next half hour had the ride of my life! She was doing 2-time changes at the end ( in fairness she had been taught these years before!).
That pony was a witch but I adored her. Sadly she was only 13hh: if she'd been 15hh I wold still have her.
Keep going with your little welsh girl: it will pay off in the end in spadefuls. Have fun!