The Accidental Smallholder Forum
Livestock => Poultry & Waterfowl => Topic started by: madchickenlady on September 21, 2014, 02:34:47 pm
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Hi, a while back I had a White Sussex cockerel but I had to dispatch him as he was very aggressive. I would like to get a cockerel to run with my girls which are a very mixed bunch. The problem is that I don't have any idea what breed to go for, he needs to be a gentle breed as my neighbours have children who like to interact with my birds and I don't want them to be terrorised by an aggressive cock bird! I have heard that the Sussex breed cockerels are prone to aggressive behaviour, is this true as I currently have two Light Sussex boys (from a hatch) but am wary of letting them run free due to previous experience so am fattening them up. My girls are very free range - my neighbours have all 'banned' me from fencing them in as they love to see them around!
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You must have the best neighbours ever! :thumbsup:
I don't know much about the Light Sussex breed, though you could perhaps just wait and see if the two youngsters are the same? Maybe with a lot of handling they'll be friendly? Just in case, as that way you wouldn't have to introduce a stranger to your flock. Someone with sufficient LS experience might correct me on that, though.
We have a very placid Ixworth cockerel, aptly named Big Boy, who will easily be held. But we also had a little pekin who attacked a toddler even though he'd never tried to dominate a (bigger) human before, whilst the other pekin boy never bothered people (but the hens - oh dear, he was a very hormonal chap!).
Maybe it's a case of finding a fully mature cockerel somewhere who is known to be friendly? I have a lovely young boy who is a cross between a Welsummer and a barn hen - I'd love to find a new home for him rather than have him going in the pot but he's only a few mons old yet. He's rusty brown with a dark green tail, I just like the look of him :love:
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We had entirely the opposite with our white Sussex cockerel!
we had a few up and coming cockerels, all of unknown, probably mixed breed, but despite them being a quarter to half his size, they picked on him. He was never any trouble with people, even regular visits from family friends children rounding him up and no nastiness at all. I think its a personality thing rather than a breed thing, and handling the young ones may well allow them to be nice boys unlike the previous one.
Good luck with them
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Your young cockerel sounds gorgeous Eve - don't suppose you're in my area? I think my cockerels are now to old to start handling, in hind sight I wish I had given them a go early on. All my hens are friendly - it's a bit like something from Jurassic park when I go out - you know when the raptors descend on their pray :roflanim: only much gentler I am glad to say! :roflanim: Maybe a youngster that I can handle regularly will be my best option.
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I think it's in their makeup, some are nice some not so. We handled our whole hatching of 11 marans most days but my son went in as usual to feed treats and was chased and grabbed by an angry 13week old cockerel. His 4 brothers have matured to be just as wicked.
Last year we had 3 hatched cockerels. 2 RIR were a bit feisty with each other but not too bad with people, not particularly friendly but not full on aggression like the marans. However we had a x Wyandotte cockerel hatched with the RIR and he was an absolute gent. I wished I could have kept him, so good with the hens and no problems to handle.
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sometimes handling can make them a bit too confident. aggression in cockerels seems to be down to luck IME and it is quite normal behaviour after all. Some breeds (RIR for example) have more of a rep than others and some say its strongly hereditary. I've never had any problems with boys I've bred from my Scots Grey cock but have just despatched one of different breeding because of this-was gutted because he was stunning but I do this for fun and don't expect to be ambushed every time I go out I gave him several chances and carried him around etc but it didn't work-he didn't even have spurs at the age but he was a big boy. Some show breeders seem to like a bit of 'feistiness' maybe because it makes them show off well.
My Marsh Daisy cockerels have all been lovely-they do crow through the night though! The worst was a cross breed cockerel I was given to keep a chick company. IMLE the more precocious (i.e. early comb development and early crowing) the more testosterone and the more likely they are to have a go. some of the bigger breeds are supposed to be nice characters-cochin for example.
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Seems like luck of the draw! Looks like a mature cockerel with a know temperament is the way to go - wise words Eve! :thumbsup: Now just got to find one!!!
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We've only ever had cochins and pekins as cockerels and with our 4 daughters there's only been one episode where one of the pekins took a fly at my eldest daughters leg and even that was half hearted after she startled him. The large cochin boys are too huge to really run anyway ;) our daughters are regularly cuddling the cockerels.
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Our RIRs have been a bit aggressive. Also welsummers of different strains will have a go. Our LS boy is soft as anything. Also our araucanas are pretty soppy but I've heard they can be nasty. So probably luck of the draw.
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we have bred both white and light sussex and never had an aggressive cockeral - so you may have just been unlucky. try again with the new birds.
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Just been offered a Lemon Pyle Brahma cockerel, I gather the Brahma is quite a docile breed. :excited:
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Just bear in mind the size as well though - Brahmas are huge. I've a big lavender Orpington cockerel in with my mixed egg layers and I think it's on the edge for the Araucana who is a lot smaller than him. Soon enough he'll be treading them all and you want to make sure the smaller ones don't get physically injured by him.
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LF orp cockerals are are incredibly docile, we positively trip over ours. Pekins can be very feisty and cream leg bars can need a wild animal license!!
In fact the only cock I've ever dispatched for being aggressive was a tiny pekin! He was deadly
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This is Donald. We've had him from day old chick. Unfortunately, he's learnt how to use the catflap, on the day this picture was taken my daughter found him half way up the stairs ;D
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We have a RIR cockerel, bought as a grower. He is the most gentle cockerel you could wish to own. My children pick him up and cuddle no problem and he has never shown aggression to any visitor. He is utility line .... could that make some difference? .... Or maybe just been lucky.
We also have 5 pekin cockerels. All really friendly. Love attention and will sit on your lap to be petted. Know quite a few people with pekin cockerels and never heard of a problem. Just given 2 of our pekin cockerels from this year to a fellow smallholder. She loves them! Her OH fears she is going to have them in the house as pets!
Love the photo Plums. :chook: ;D
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I too had a light sussex that was evil- you took your life into your own hands going into the pen.
I've now got 3 maran cockerels that I've had since 4 wks old and they are very good natured and have produced some nice offspring crossed with my light sussex and commercial hybrid hens.
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Brahmas and orpingtons are gentleman.
But as someone else said, they are heavy, and also eat a lot.
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You need to work whith them when they start growing . The more time the better .
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In my experience it's down to the individual bird. I've kept or known of the following breeds with really nasty cockerels: Lemon Cuckoo Orpington, Wyandotte, Marans, Barnevelder, Brahma ..... Our current Silver Grey Dorking cockerels are all very laid back and the Speckled Sussex is a real softie. We have one Dorking available - whereabouts are you?
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I am in Suffolk which I am guessing a is a little far from you (?) but thank you for the offer. I have been offered a six month old Brahma who I am going to give a chance. Thank you very much for all your replies, it has been an interesting thread. I am sure I am not the only one who really appreciates the humour on the forum. If feeling low I will browse the topics and always find something to make me smile, giggle and generally raise my spirits! :thumbsup:
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Yes, too far from us. The Brahma I knew of was fine when he was young but got progressively more cantankerous with age. "Cantankerous" is a word I don't get to use very often - I like it!