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Smallholding => Crofting => Topic started by: netmgr on September 14, 2014, 01:48:24 pm

Title: Turn croft into meadow?
Post by: netmgr on September 14, 2014, 01:48:24 pm
We were looking at the decrofting issue and it seems that its unlikely we could decroft the whole croft.

As an owner occupier if we don't actively croft the land its my understanding that the crofting commission can install their own tenant who can then do what they like and even force us to sell the land.

On this basis we were looking at the crofting act and it seems we should be able to perhaps turn it into a natural meadow land, however I'm unsure how how this is different from not 'actively crofting the land'

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Turn croft into meadow?
Post by: oor wullie on September 14, 2014, 05:05:13 pm
The crofting rules are specifically there to keep land in active agricultural use, that is their raison d'etre.

Decrofting is usually only granted for very specific reasons (usually a house site as it is required before a bank will give a mortgage) and I can't think of any reason why they would (or should) be willing to allow a whole croft to be decrofted.

A 'natural meadow' does not sound terribly much like agriculture to me however if you were to do it under an agri environmental scheme that would possibly count.  The best solution though would be to get 2 sheep.  You don't need to be earning a living from agriculture, just making an effort, however small that effort is.

Having said all that whilst the CC does have the powers to sublet unused croft land they are glacially slow about doing anything about it and if they started the process you would have plenty time to get those 2 sheep before it got anywhere.  They are highly unlikely to do anything if you live on the croft - their priority is crofts which are held by people who live so far away there is no prospect of them doing any crofting.
Although in my opinion they need to pull their fingers out and get a bit more heavy handed with a few more vacant crofts  :innocent:
Title: Re: Turn croft into meadow?
Post by: shygirl on September 14, 2014, 06:16:55 pm
do meadows not need to be cut or grazed in late summer anyway?
or were you wanting to leave it wild and untouched? even wild flowers grow tall.
Title: Re: Turn croft into meadow?
Post by: netmgr on September 14, 2014, 09:00:40 pm
The best solution though would be to get 2 sheep. 

I'm not sure I could get away with just the 2 sheep on 200 acres, apparently a meadow may be an option if I can show that I am actively managing it.
Title: Re: Turn croft into meadow?
Post by: netmgr on September 14, 2014, 09:02:48 pm
do meadows not need to be cut or grazed in late summer anyway?
or were you wanting to leave it wild and untouched? even wild flowers grow tall.

That would attract wildlife which is seen as a good thing by the commission I believe?
Title: Re: Turn croft into meadow?
Post by: fiestyredhead331 on September 14, 2014, 10:41:03 pm
ha ha my ex had this croft for 10years plus and did nothing with it and when I applied to the CC to have it transferred to me they still wouldn't do anything about it despite him now living 5000 miles away and hasn't been in the UK for 4+ years so I wouldn't worry too much!
What about the 'set aside' scheme?.....my parents had one of theirs on the scheme until earlier this year and now we've ploughed part of it and planted tatties and the rest will go as winter grazing for a few sheep
Title: Re: Turn croft into meadow?
Post by: Creagan on December 07, 2014, 01:40:13 pm
The best solution though would be to get 2 sheep. 

I'm not sure I could get away with just the 2 sheep on 200 acres, apparently a meadow may be an option if I can show that I am actively managing it.

It must be asked, what *do* you want to do with all that land? And if you don't want to do anything with it, why do you want to have it??
Title: Re: Turn croft into meadow?
Post by: Hamish Crofter on December 07, 2014, 05:52:24 pm
Well said Cregan!
Title: Re: Turn croft into meadow?
Post by: fiestyredhead331 on December 08, 2014, 01:24:03 pm
200 acres?.....why did you buy that much ground when you had no intention of actually using it productively  ???

Have you had your census forms yet? It shouldn't take you long to fill those out  ;D