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Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: Roxy on September 12, 2014, 12:43:40 am

Title: Dogs Home Fire
Post by: Roxy on September 12, 2014, 12:43:40 am
Manchester Dogs Home has burnt down tonight, killing a lot of the dogs.  Appears it was deliberate.  How sick are some people?  Well done to the two brave men who ran in and kicked the kennel doors in, managing to save some of the dogs.  I believe all are safe and being taken to other shelters tonight.  I hope the culprit gets punished .......things like this really make me mad.
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Post by: mojocafa on September 12, 2014, 06:20:21 am
OMG , that's awful,  :rant:
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Post by: devonlady on September 12, 2014, 08:15:42 am
If it was deliberate then the people responsible should be put to sleep__ or locked in a room with half a dozen TASers >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: Fleecewife on September 12, 2014, 08:19:02 am

Whatever would anyone hope to achieve by burning so many dogs to death?  Oh it's absolutely horrible to think of that  :furious: :furious: :furious:   Just when I start to believe people aren't so very bad, then this happens - WHY?
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Post by: PipSqueak on September 12, 2014, 08:58:00 am
It was a 14 year old boy apparently, and he has been arrested. Nothing will happen to him at that age, however. Last I heard 49 dogs had been killed, and over 150 saved. Chester Dogs Home have taken them in and are keen for donations of food and large dog bowls if anyone is in that neck of the woods, and there is also a Just a Giving page.
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Post by: sabrina on September 12, 2014, 10:07:36 am
What goes through a 14 year old mind to cause so much pain to a animal who cannot escape. I will never  understand this world. Poor wee doggies.
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Post by: doganjo on September 12, 2014, 10:10:04 am
I've donated on Justgiving - death toll over 60 now. So sad.  If he was my grandson I'd be so mortified.  And he wouldn't be able to sit down for a long time!

https://www.justgiving.com/ManchesterDogsHomeMEN (https://www.justgiving.com/ManchesterDogsHomeMEN)
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Post by: Fleecewife on September 12, 2014, 11:16:09 am

This child needs care and treatment.  Animals this time will surely escalate to people next time, or the time after that.  Arsonists have a real psychiatric problem and I don't know that they will ever be cured.  I so hope the relevant authorities take his danger to the public seriously.  It would be interesting if further info comes out as to whether he wanted to kill the dogs, or just wanted the thrill ( :tired:) of setting a fire.
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Post by: kelly58 on September 12, 2014, 12:51:34 pm
Donated,  family will too :thumbsup:
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Post by: Daisys Mum on September 12, 2014, 02:16:43 pm
Just made my donation too, there are some sick ba$tards in this world. :'(
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Post by: john and helen on September 12, 2014, 03:02:11 pm
very sad indeed, but i also wonder what made the lad do it….kids just don't do things like that, well not your everyday child… i am wondering if there are mental health issues, ..
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Post by: Herdygirl on September 12, 2014, 05:02:29 pm
Doesn't really matter if the lad has mental health problems, at that age he would still know right from wrong.  :rant:

I notice that the RSPCA are trying to get in on the act, must be galling that donations for the Manchester Dogs home have topped £750,000 and their cash receipts are falling.
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Post by: shygirl on September 12, 2014, 05:11:29 pm

I notice that the RSPCA are trying to get in on the act, must be galling that donations for the Manchester Dogs home have topped £750,000 and their cash receipts are falling.

i expect the RSPCA will want some of the money then "in expenses" or something?
i was on shift in a eldery care home and some kids set it on fire. not funny in any situation. we couldnt evacuate one lady so she could have been killed. thank god for the fire brigade.
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Post by: doganjo on September 12, 2014, 09:05:06 pm
Just saw on the news the fund has reached £1million.  There's a lot of dog lovers in the UK!
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Post by: Lesley Silvester on September 12, 2014, 09:08:51 pm
While I agree with everyone that it was appalling and how the dogs must have felt knowing that there was a fire doesn't bear thinking about, I can't help wondering if that much would have been raised if it had been, say, a care home that had burned down.
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Post by: doganjo on September 12, 2014, 09:37:47 pm
While I agree with everyone that it was appalling and how the dogs must have felt knowing that there was a fire doesn't bear thinking about, I can't help wondering if that much would have been raised if it had been, say, a care home that had burned down.
I suspect if an appeal had been launched in that case they would have raised a good amount, but a care home has legal regulations to follow, plus contingency plans with the rescue services on immediate standby when an alarm is raised. This is a bit different I think.
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Post by: Old Shep on September 12, 2014, 09:41:44 pm
The suffering of those poor innocent dogs is appalling. But more than 60 dogs die each day in pounds around the UK. Those dogs shouldn't have been in there if people hadn't chucked them out or handed them in! The donations have now exceded £1m.  MDH is not one of the best rescue centres and I personally am very worried where that wellmeaning money will go.
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Post by: Roxy on September 13, 2014, 12:49:57 am
Its rather a depressing place I have always thought, not in a very nice area.....but there again, I suppose they take in the strays, which is something, at least they are fed and looked after.  Perhaps they could rebuilt it somewhere  else ........
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Post by: Castle Farm on September 13, 2014, 08:16:20 am
I'd like to have 10 minutes with the little B******.
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Post by: doganjo on September 13, 2014, 09:55:33 am
Its rather a depressing place I have always thought, not in a very nice area.....but there again, I suppose they take in the strays, which is something, at least they are fed and looked after.  Perhaps they could rebuilt it somewhere  else ........
That may well be an option - the present site could be sold for housing if it is owned and there is a shortage in Manchester, and a new site bought outside the city. Could be anew beginning for them.
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Post by: Beeducked on September 13, 2014, 01:01:25 pm
While I agree with everyone that it was appalling and how the dogs must have felt knowing that there was a fire doesn't bear thinking about, I can't help wondering if that much would have been raised if it had been, say, a care home that had burned down.

Sadly I suspect very true. I remember reading somewhere that the RSPCA receives more donations per year than all the age concern charities put together.
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Post by: Old Shep on September 13, 2014, 08:55:31 pm
I've fostered a dog (now in a lovely forever home) who had been in Manchester dogs home twice.  He was refused entry a third time and it was not looking good, until PPBC rescue took him in. He's a lovely boy and had they rehomed him into an appropriate home he would have been fine. I really hope this influx of cash will make them improve their game.