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Smallholding => Land Management => Topic started by: undergruntled on September 11, 2014, 08:27:57 am

Title: how do you tell where the garden ends?
Post by: undergruntled on September 11, 2014, 08:27:57 am: Hello, we will soon be moving into a bungalow with three and a half acres. It is nearly all at the back and is very run down. There is a sort of back garden but it's not that clear where one ends and the other begins. How do you define which is garden as the plans of the property don't show a division? I am interested because it is easier to build things in a garden under permitted development than to build them in a field. I am thinking of the wooden stables I will need for my horse.. :innocent:
Title: Re: how do you tell where the garden ends?
Post by: Buttermilk on September 11, 2014, 08:55:02 am: I would just put up a fence where it suits you best.
Title: Re: how do you tell where the garden ends?
Post by: ladyK on September 11, 2014, 12:06:34 pm: I think the permitted development rules in a 'garden' specify how far the building can be from the house. So if you can put the stable close enough to the house within the permitted size, height etc rules you shouldn't need to define where the 'garden' ends, not sure there is any definition of 'garden' anyway (except that is has to be around/near the house, perhaps?)
Title: Re: how do you tell where the garden ends?
Post by: pgkevet on September 11, 2014, 06:09:46 pm: I suspect this depends on a mix of how it looks in the land reg docs and then how it looks on site and how it relates to any outbuildings, fecing, tree lines and so forth.

I asked the planning officer for advice and ended up with a visit whereupon for this property he pointed out my predecessors changes and tree palntings which were over the 10yr rule and happily volunteered that i now had an extended curtilage that I coud now legaly plaster with outbuildings, greenhouses etc to cover 50% (I think) of the 3+ acres extended curtilage subject to the rules re heights and closeness to boundaries etc. And he kindly sent that in writing afterwards. All at no charge too - they seemd quite pleased that someone was asking rather than just submitting stuff
Title: Re: how do you tell where the garden ends?
Post by: shygirl on September 13, 2014, 02:03:41 pm: our garden boundary was drawn on our plans but wasnt very accurate in reality as the septic tanks etc are in a different place.
Title: Re: how do you tell where the garden ends?
Post by: Bramblecot on September 15, 2014, 09:02:27 pm: Def. go for the bigger garden :innocent:
Title: Re: how do you tell where the garden ends?
Post by: stufe35 on September 15, 2014, 09:11:34 pm: We asked the planners for advice on an issue....biggest mistake of our lives.....pay some money and go to a planning consultant.