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Livestock => Pigs => Topic started by: dysie39 on November 26, 2009, 07:27:30 pm

Title: feeding pigs
Post by: dysie39 on November 26, 2009, 07:27:30 pm
sorry to all I submitted before I finished writing,


Forgive me if this sounds nieve

are we allowed to feed waste food from our own kitchen to pet pigs

I thought not, but I knew someone not so long ago that allowed us to take all types of waste food up to feed thier pet pigs,
but after reading up on the paperwork from DEFRA im confused inthier words

YOU CANNOT FEED AND KIND OF CATERING WASTE TO FARMED ANIMALS  they then go on to define catering waste as
 ALL WASTE FOOD WHETHER RAW OR COOKED INCLUDING
WASTE FROM
HOUSEHOLD KITCHENS RESTAURANTS FISH & CHIP KEBAB PIZZA SHOPS TAKEAWAY SHOPS CANTEENS OR CAFES
my confusion is if i buy veg and fruit form the supermarket take it home chop it up then surely its food waste from a household kitchen
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: little blue on November 26, 2009, 08:18:49 pm
yep
Chop it up outside, and use your outside tap if needed.
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: doganjo on November 26, 2009, 08:25:17 pm
Do these rules apply to 'pet' pigs as well as pigs for meat, or are 'pet pigs' only pet's till they are ready for slaughter?
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: little blue on November 26, 2009, 08:29:04 pm
No such thing as 'pet pigs' they are all classed the same regardless of what they are, what they're 'for' or how many you keep.
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: doganjo on November 26, 2009, 08:43:19 pm
No such thing as 'pet pigs' they are all classed the same regardless of what they are, what they're 'for' or how many you keep.

Even the wee ones and pot bellied thingys?
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: Hilarysmum on November 27, 2009, 07:22:50 am
Yes because they are all susceptible to Foot and Mouth.
(but thats only in UK here the "rules" are completely different")
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: dysie39 on November 27, 2009, 02:39:20 pm
thanks for the reply s people im still a bit bewildered by all the paperwork, how serious should I take what they say
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: herdsman on November 27, 2009, 04:17:32 pm
Very, These rules are designed to control Classical swine fever and foot and mouth. The last major outbreak of CSF was caused by swill feeding quickly followed by F&M in 2001
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: JulieS on November 27, 2009, 05:18:02 pm
Most definitely agree......Very important.
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: Jackie on November 29, 2009, 06:03:22 pm
Seriously how are DEFRA gonna actually know? And as long as meat never gets fed to the pigs Im sure its ok to feed raw cabbage/spuds etc that has been chopped in your kitchen. after all what difference does a kitchen door and 2 feet make to the cabbage?

In other words be sensible.
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: little blue on November 29, 2009, 06:27:07 pm
But why bother chopping cabbage?! Or much else for that matter, the pigs will manage!
Potatoes are better cooked, get a camping stove and pretend you're on holiday!
I keep a small fruit knife outside in the shed (or if I'm honest... on top of the rabbit hutch most of the time) for veg chopping for the bunnies
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: Daisys Mum on November 29, 2009, 06:51:56 pm


When I first got my pigs I had visits from Trading Standards and Animal Welfare, both of these said that they did not have a problem with me

 cooking potatoes in my kitchen and feeding them to pigs. Just to take sensible precautions and not chop them on a board used for meat.
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: dysie39 on November 30, 2009, 07:53:17 am
ok guys and girls, thats more helpful, now I dont feel like in doing wrong, i am being sensible but the other week when my piggies had an outside adventure thanks to some idiot's dog scaring them off they ate the contents of someone's bin and scrap bin, I would be surprised if there wasn't any meat content in that,
ill be very careful thanks for the help
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: herdsman on December 07, 2009, 07:33:42 pm
Checked with a friend from Animal Health(defra). Wanted to get my facts right before I posted. The rules are.... If its been in the kitchen it definitely CANT go in your pig (or poultry come to that). Sugestions are peel your spuds and anything else out side. I certainly dont want to be the one that causes another major disease outbreak because I accidentally exposed my pig food to some imported dried meat from Argentina or Africa.
Personally I dont understand why these imports are allowed. We should be more like Australia and protect our livestock industry properly and have proper import checks at all our ports.
Title: Re: feeding pigs
Post by: Hilarysmum on December 08, 2009, 02:58:38 pm
herdsman why use common sense when you can use rules to baffle and confuse the majority  - confusion equals power