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Community => Coffee Lounge => Topic started by: MiriMaran on October 28, 2009, 09:49:34 pm

Title: Ladybirds
Post by: MiriMaran on October 28, 2009, 09:49:34 pm
We have loads of ladybirds coming into the house to hibernate.  How do I know if they are the good native ones we want to keep or the bad non-native ones that we are supposed to kill?

Any advice would be great.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Snoopy on October 28, 2009, 09:55:45 pm
Dunno - put them all outside in the shed ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: doganjo on October 28, 2009, 10:53:32 pm
i've never heard of ladybirds having to be killed.  I thought all ladybirds were good ??? :o
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: sandy on October 29, 2009, 07:44:29 am
 ???Arn't the bad ones colarado beetles in fancy dress !!!!
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: little blue on October 29, 2009, 07:51:42 pm
What y'like?!  Colorado beetles?!

The Harlequin ladybird is the foreign invader to britain, we have some 40 odd species, so they all look a little different anyway, not all red with 6 black spots!
Harliquins will eat smaller native 'birds, so try not to encourage them in.

Have a look at the "uk ladybird survey" website for photos, I can't get them up on here...

http://www.ladybird-survey.org
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: sandy on October 29, 2009, 07:56:16 pm
Arrrrh(http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Surprise/surprised-040.gif)
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: MiriMaran on October 29, 2009, 08:05:43 pm
Yes its the baddie that we have - Harmonia axyridis succinea!

http://www.harlequin-survey.org/recognition_and_distinction.htm# (http://www.harlequin-survey.org/recognition_and_distinction.htm#)

Harry's bedroom has at least 30 in it.  The front of our feed shed in the field was totally covered in pupating Ladybirds this summer and judginf by the photos of the larvae they were all Harlequins. Argh!!!

I'm going to take photos and send them into the Harlequin Survey form to get verification.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: doganjo on October 29, 2009, 08:08:16 pm
Maybe it's the way I was brought up and only ever having seen red 7 spots but I couldn't kill a ladybird - ever!
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: MiriMaran on October 29, 2009, 08:16:46 pm
I was really worried about having to kill them, but it doesn't say to do that on the website so I think Harry can keep his new pets in his room for now.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: MiriMaran on October 29, 2009, 08:19:43 pm
How can I kill this?!

(http://www.harlequin-survey.org/images/ladybird_imgs/h_axyridis_succinea.jpg)
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: little blue on October 29, 2009, 08:31:17 pm
Think how many red squirrels died because of the invasion of greys.
Think how many pigs, sheep, dogs, etc etc are or have been on 'rare breed' lists

Now can you kill it, to save all those beautiful native ladybirds?

(probably not, I'm only trying to help...)
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: MiriMaran on October 29, 2009, 08:38:58 pm
Oh don't Ruth!  Do you think I should squash them?
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: doganjo on October 29, 2009, 09:25:20 pm
Why not phone your local 'man-from-defra' and ask what you should do with them?  They may send someone out to do the deed for you.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: Snoopy on October 29, 2009, 09:51:19 pm
Or you could get a white witch in - like HFW did in
River Cottage - and ask them to leave  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: doganjo on October 29, 2009, 10:01:29 pm
He didn't really, did he? Does he really believe in that stuff?
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: MiriMaran on October 30, 2009, 05:13:35 pm
If I have a wasp buzzing arpound me I always ask it very politely to go away and they invaribly do.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: little blue on October 30, 2009, 07:03:37 pm
Thats just your imposing and commanding nature!!!
From what I can find, you need to just record where, when and how many harlequins you've seen to the harlequin survey, run by the University of Cambridge.  They are monitering where they are, and say you should shouldnt see the 'birds over the winter as they'll hibernate out of sight.
No need for mass murder!
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: MiriMaran on October 30, 2009, 07:11:16 pm
At the moment Harry has about 30 tucked into the corner of his window frame.  I meant to take some photos today, but forgot.
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: cameldairy on October 30, 2009, 07:38:04 pm
I didn't know WHAT you people were talking about ;D :dunce:then I saw the photo.  ::) over here we call them "lady bugs" My mom used to tell me that they bring you good luck if they land on you and she would also tell me it was a sin to kill them :o (she tried her best to mess me up ;))
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: MiriMaran on October 30, 2009, 07:42:28 pm
Wow if she said that about Ladybirds what did she say about men!!!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: cameldairy on October 30, 2009, 07:45:21 pm
She said NOTHING about men thank God, I guess that's how I lucked up and got a great one!! :love:
Title: Re: Ladybirds
Post by: MiriMaran on October 30, 2009, 08:36:23 pm
 ;D ;D